Dear GP and Binu Thomas PLEASE UNDERSTAND DYNAMIC ACTION IS NOT AN ORGANISATION FOR HEAVENS SAKE ITS A REGISTERED CULTURAL MAGAAZINE. TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY OF IT TWO OF US (ME AND MY FRIEND IS WRITING IT). IF YOU GUYS WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT IT P GOVINDAPILLAI IS THE BEST RESOURCE....
On Mar 31, 12:11 pm, "aryakrishnan ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I donot think GP Ramachndarn refuses to engage. If he wanted to remain > silent, he could have. It is true that he will not answer substantial > questions, so is CPI(M). The malayalam sayings 'ariyethraya > payaranjazhi', 'adine pattiyakkal' that is the frame work his party > and he uses. Instead of commenting on the discussions , he forwarded a > green youth member's mail to all of us in the hope to create a panic > on 'Thomas Kochery + chengara'. > > The logic goes like this 'Delhi Forum is a funded NGO' (It does not > matter, how much funding tthey got. It does not matter that their > proposals are out in the public. It does not matter that they support > people's movements. All what matters is that they are a 'FOREIGN > FUNDED NGO.) > Delhi forum people went to Chengara/ supported Chengara, so Chengara > struggle is invalid. > > This blaming, branding business is CPI(M)'s trademark. In Nandigram, > their allegation was 'BJP-SUCI-Thrinamul-Maoist' alliance. With > adivasi movement in Kerala it was again foreign fund, maoism etc. > > With Chengara, they made a new coinage of maoists, anarchists, > feminists, CIA thing. > > There is no logical reasoning. What they are doing is simply putting > together all controversial/ marginal terms together to invalidate the > struggle. > > When this man and his party completely ignores the people's struggle > and selectively picking things like 'one Israeli citizen visited > pathanamthitta' or someone from Delhi visited there, I am sorry, I > dont want to remain with a democracy anxiety. Hell with their > politics. I support Jenson's mail, which this GP and Poker claims as > abusive. They have no shame, when they are playing this dirty game > just because they belong to this fascist party. > > Let us not have any illusions that CPI(M) or their allies are > democratic. We should be ashamed if we expect this party's members to > be answerable to anybody. In Kannur they use swords and bombs, In > Nandigram they use hired goons to rape even 60 year old women. The > CPI(M) intellectuals support all these, and I donot want to see them > as separate from their Goondas. > > If this mail is also an abuse, I am privilaged, I would like to abuse > the 'rapist, feudal, fascist' party mouth pieces. > > Aryan > > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:40 AM, S sanjeev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > dear bobby, > > since mr g.p ramachandran refuses to engage with this public forum i wish > > you wont post his private mails - that literally and figuratively abuses > > other discussants as mercenaries - here. > > > Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree we need to discuss Poland, Gujarat, Tibet, Palestine et al to > > understand politics. But what I do not understand is the backlash on a group > > of landless dalits and adivasis demanding land in Kerala and "guilt by > > association" that is being thrown at them > > What I am yet to understand is how CIA is involved > > What I am yet to understand is how is the character of the people on the > > Night Vigil determined by women smoking or their sexuality and that > > determining the nature of the struggle at Chengara > > Wht I am yet to understand is the guilt of Delhi Forum in applying for funds > > to AID and how that reverberates on Chengara > > What I am yet to understand is the defamatory spiel > > Hope you could help me make the connections > > > On 30/03/2008, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > dear bobby > > > my problem still exists. U CANNOT TALK ABOUT GUJARAT OR PALESTINE WHEN > > > WE ARE DISCUSSING ABOUT CHENGARA AND THE NIGHT VIGIL. this was the > > > basic attitude of people like dilipraj and the abusive mail sender > > > etc. their mental level is at par with sreenivasan of sandesam. > > > polandine kurichu samsaarikkaruthu. > > > regards > > > gp.ramachandran > > > > On 3/30/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > and one more point - moderators correct me if I am wrong - greenyouth > > does > > > > not work on exclusivity like the fourth estate critique. > > > > Binu Thomas would be welcome to make his posts here by acquiring > > membership > > > > > On 30/03/2008, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear GPR > > > > > Whats the point? > > > > > How does a delhi based NGO's funding proposal make the Chengara > > struggle > > > > CIA backed. This mail sounds shrill and defamatory. Nothing better or > > worse > > > > than the threatening mail you got. > > > > > Instead of discussing the merits of the Chengara struggle, we are > > > > discussing possiblities of external funding. > > > > > A metaphor I hope that you might understand - what deshabhimani and > > this > > > > kind of mails do is to put the rape victim on the dock and question her > > > > character - as if anyone deserves to be raped. > > > > > Long live the questions that Chengara has thrown open > > > > > I would like it if you would respomd this time > > > > > In solidarity > > > > > > On 30/03/2008, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all > > > > > > this is mail posted to me since binu thomas has not got a membership > > > > > > in the google groups. please read it. > > > > > > G P Ramachandran > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > From: binu thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Date: Mar 29, 2008 2:29 AM > > > > > > Subject: Delhi is not far away from chengara!!! > > > > > > To: Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Delhi is not far away from chengara!!! > > > > > > > Anivar says > > > > > > > It is a grant proposal by an organization in Delhi > > > > > > > Ok, I agreed > > > > > > > And there is the pulp > > > > > > > This delhi based organization's operation office is here in > > thiruvalla > > > > > > > They collects the forgine aids via thiruvalla bank!! ( see its FCRA > > > > details) > > > > > > > And here its email id changes to DYNAMIC ACTION- THE HEAVY FUNDED > > > > > > ACTION GROUP!!! > > > > > > > Delhi based organization's coordinator visited chengara with his > > > > > > group and arranged to film the movement the update collective the > > > > > > magazine brought out by this Delhi based organization published > > appeal > > > > > > seeking financial support for chengara struggle > > > > > > > And not the part -u have to send doncations to > > > > > > > Dynamic action and Programme for social action -both are the > > parental > > > > > > bodies of this delhi based funding child!!!! So money is going to > > > > > > same pocket > > > > > > > Along with grant proposals this film is circulating among many > > donor > > > > > > agencies. 'some forums' other that the poor people shouting slogans > > in > > > > > > chengara battle land is gaining out of it > > > > > > > more than of these please note the working committee members of DF > > > > > > > first name in Working Committee is > > > > > > > Fr. Thomas Kocherry (World Forum of Fisher Peoples & > > > > > > > Convener, Peoples' Political Front / NAPM, India) > > > > > > > Most of us know who is this ACHAN > > > > > > > If anyone need to know more about him > > > > > > > Please read the following news link > > > > > > It was posted in greenyouth list none other than ANIVAR > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > From: Anivar Aravind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Date: Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 12:19 PM > > > > > > Subject: <<green youth>> Fwd: NGOs cross swords over tsunami relief > > > > dollars > > > > > > To: [email protected], > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > NGOs cross swords over tsunami relief dollars > > > > > > > Arun Jayan/ Thiruvananthapuram > > > > > > the pioneer > > > > > > 17.12.2005 > > >http://dailypioneer.com/indexn12.asp?main_variable=KOCHI&file_name=KO... > > > > > > > Infighting among non-governmental oraganisations is becoming > > murkier. > > > > > > Be it in the Adivasi community or among fishermen, or any other > > areas, > > > > > > such as ecology, culture, herbs, rustic know-how or AIDS, the NGOs > > of > > > > > > late are engaged in a pitched battle as they attach more importance > > to > > > > > > the inflow of dollars and euros than to the cause they are > > projecting. > > > > > > > Literate Kerala had witnessed many such feuds > > > > > > that led to splitting NGO groups, such as Mithra Niketan, Samskriti, > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > Even priests and nuns seem to be after big > > > > > > money as is evident from the latest bickering in the World Forum of > > > > > > Fisher Peoples. Fr Thomas Kochery, known as the champion of the > > > > > > fisherfolks' cause, is very much involved in this forum as a special > > > > > > invitee. The organisation is on the verge of a spilt if the > > > > > > allegations and counter-allegations coming from within the WFFP, > > > > > > Kerala chapter, are anything to go by. > > > > > > > The rift has reached such serious dimensions > > > > > > that WFFP secretary Sr Cecily Plathottam, is under police > > protection. > > > > > > Addressing newsmen in Thiruvananthapuram, Sr Cecily, who was > > > > > > accompanied by two women cops, accused Fr Kochery of embezzling > > > > > > tsunami funds. She also says her life is under threat ever since she > > > > > > questioned his way of spending funds received for the welfare of the > > > > > > fisherfolk. > > > > > > > She alleged that Fr Kochery had received more > > > > > > than Rs 100 crore from various foreign funding agencies for the > > > > > > rehabilitation of tsunami-affected fishermen. "However, he is not > > > > > > ready to clarify as to what he did with this money," she said.- > > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
