ramachandran, i already publicly apologised for the "threatening" mail I wrote, and said that was a sudden expression of anger. i do not defend my action. And anybody would know that I did not mean it when i said "i will send you abuse mails". You are simply flattering yourself. I sent such a mail also because I did not want a discussion/dialogue with YOU.
Go on citing these things as the evidences of an "anti-communist alliance" (thathvajnanees, journalists, academicians... as you think) in Kerala. But if you want to see the real 'anti-communist forces', go to chengara.. green salam On 4/25/08, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > those who are interested and got time may read the full text of my > article and comment. my article is available in > http://ulkazhcha.blogspot.com/ > > On 4/25/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > but why are we still afraid of realizing the 'fascist' elements of > > 'marxism' itself, which creates dictators like stalin, mao, castro, > > pinarayi, kim sung (sorry for the spelling), vs, budhadeb.. > > > > isnt it the marxism itself by its logic of necessity rejects all > > social agents other than the 'economic class'? the same logic trying > > hard to incorporate all struggles of blacks, women, sexual minorities > > and dalits to create their own political subjectivity and public space > > into the axis of class struggle.. > > > > at least, people at struggle in Chengara, nandigram, (may be in tibet) > > realize the real marxist opression.. china and chavez > > together...pinarayi and budhadeb.. > > > > Ahmed > > > > On 4/24/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i think we should read Pinarayi and VS before acquanitng ourselves > with the > > > writings of Stalin and Lenin... bz communism in kerala means Pinarayi > and V > > > S.... even marx comes after them only. > > > why? bz they r there to theorise the future of the toiling millions, > > > unfortunately!! > > > > > > > > > On 4/24/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am fairly unread - illiterate , but why should I read Stalin? I > strongly > > > am prejudiced that he was a fascixst dictator > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/04/2008, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > First of all , you just collect that book and try to read. I > > > > > cheers > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:49 PM, Bobby Kunhu < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was wondering why stalin > > > > > > i believe he was a fascist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/04/2008, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. I believe in scientic knowledge. So I am watching your > wordings > > > too. > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:37 PM, ahmed rafeek j > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > innocent thoughts....a complete knowledge will lead to the > > > absolute > > > > > > > > truth, a teacher can enlighten you for better unerstanding > of pure > > > and > > > > > > > > flawless marxim....but potential to take shape of fascism at > any > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truth is not somewher existing waiting for us to unfold. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gone are the days of enlightenment.... 'truth' is created > and > > > > > > > > constructed through our own discourses...discourses dictate > our > > > > > > > > truths..that's why i became anti-communist and appunni > became pure > > > > > > > > communist (with a bit less knowledge) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/23/08, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Marx , Mao are just like Bobby and Appunni. Ask yourself > whether > > > god. > > > > > > > > > Universal truth? what is it? > > > > > > > > > I said that I am not expert in this field. > > > > > > > > > Because, I am telling all these things with partial > knowledge, > > > with errors. > > > > > > > > > So I am not a teacher in this field. > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, communist history is full of rights and > > > wrongs. So Marx > > > > > > > > > may fail to analyse caste equation. Lenin may fail to > analyise > > > about > > > > > > > > > democratic content of bolshevik party. Stalin may fail in > > > establishing > > > > > > > > > international communist front. Mao may fail in upkeeping > > > fraternity between > > > > > > > > > India and China. > > > > > > > > > Study from the faults and uphold the rights is to be part > of > > > communists. > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:41 PM, Bobby Kunhu > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is Marx God? > > > > > > > > > > Did he percieve the caste equations in Colonial South > Asia? > > > His > > > > > > > > > observations on that (what I have read seems ignorant). > > > > > > > > > > Then Mao - is there a universal truth in analysing > hegemony? > > > > > > > > > > I am someone seeking questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/04/2008, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear bobby, > > > > > > > > > > > You are asking a simple question. > > > > > > > > > > > My simple answer: I am not an expert > in > > > this subject. > > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested, I will suggest > names > > > of few books. > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Bobby Kunhu > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > simple question > > > > > > > > > > > > what is communism > > > > > > > > > > > > would like to be educated on that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/04/2008, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are asking so many > questions > > > which both you > > > > > > > > > and me can not answer. More over, you are not expecting a > reply > > > as those > > > > > > > > > questions are reserved with your answers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me repeat. CPI(M) does not > > > represent a > > > > > > > > > communist party. Every rightist forces know this well. So > they > > > are utilising > > > > > > > > > this to attack communist parties. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chengara struggle may be > conducted > > > with or > > > > > > > > > without the leadership of a communist party. On the other > hand, > > > a communist > > > > > > > > > party shall uphold the slogan ' land for tiller' and their > new > > > democratic > > > > > > > > > revolutionary movements shall incorporate that slogan as > its > > > main axis. This > > > > > > > > > should be the strategy of a communist party as the > objective > > > condtions in > > > > > > > > > India like countries are accordingly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, a communist party > should > > > support all > > > > > > > > > land struggles like 'Chengara' and should lead it if > necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 8:39 PM, ahmed rafeek j > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > communist parties ?!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please advise why people at struggle in Chengara > need > > > a communist > > > > > > > > > party. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does anybody need to symbolize cpim as communist > > > party? what does > > > > > > > > > make > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a communist party really a communist party? what > are > > > the signs of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'purity'? is there any single communist party > which > > > doesnt say > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they are the 'original'? why do we need to run > after > > > each > > > > > > > > > communist > > > > > > > > > > > > > > party to test whether it is real or no? what > kind of > > > great > > > > > > > > > revolution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > u r planning to do and in which century? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahmed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/23/08, JAYARAJAN. C.N. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a usual tactics of rightist > forces > > > and rightist > > > > > > > > > medias by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > symbolising CPI(M) as a real communist party, > > > exposing that > > > > > > > > > party and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > generalising that communist parties are like > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is unfortunate that even many > > > progressive thinking > > > > > > > > > people are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also repeating the same blah blahs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > appunni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:03 AM, ranju radha > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oho...now it s clear comrade > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it s to save the world from US imperialism > that > > > those bloody > > > > > > > > > CPM cadres > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > raped and killed Dalits in Nandigram .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and damn those women cadres of CPM, who > asked > > > "what was that > > > > > > > > > dalit woman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing in the field at 4am" (where else will > she > > > shit? and what > > > > > > > > > were comrades > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing in the field? reading communist > manifesto?!!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a great revolutionary act > comrades!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/22/08, ahmed rafeek j > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feel sorry for him... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but good that he broke his silence at > least in > > > chintha. it > > > > > > > > > was a bit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suspensful for me when i see many > responses to > > > him and some > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requested for his response on Chengara and > some > > > threatened > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spaaaaaaaam mails. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but he just repeated what pinarayi n all > said > > > proving that > > > > > > > > > all of them > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are really 'red'. as k.k.koch rightly > said, > > > communism is as > > > > > > > > > dangerous > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as fascism to the indigenous people around > the > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahmed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 4/22/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In an article in Chinta weekly > > > GPramachandran (2008 > > > > > > > > > April 18) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > justifies CPIM's abti democratic > standpoints/ > > > actions on > > > > > > > > > Tibet, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nandigram, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chengara and Arayamkudi. He alleges that > there > > > are > > > > > > > > > 'objective' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > evidences for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > America's interventions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in Kerala. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nandigram and chengara are being > manipulated > > > by certain > > > > > > > > > forces to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thwart > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wider unity > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > formed aginst USimperialism, > > > globalisation,communalisation > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fascism.(p.23) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Nandigram and Kolkotta, certain > forces are > > > 'depicting' > > > > > > > > > CPIM as > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enemy and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unleashing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attacks by siding with Congress, BJP, > > > Thrunamool, Maoists > > > > > > > > > and Islamic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fundamentalists (pp24--25) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He concludes the article by stating that > " we > > > should take > > > > > > > > > it seriously > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anti communists are able to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > create a group political hysteria around > > > nandigram issue." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dileep R I thuravoor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Bobby Kunhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > G P Ramachandran > AKAM, PERIMBADARI PO > MANNARKKAD, PALAKKAD DT > KERALA, INDIA > 04924 223990, 09447239544 > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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