Dear Sreenivastry working this out at the opposite end - repression used as
a tool for occupational heredity.
caste and community  might work just based on heredity in the south asian
context regardless of religion - your fav religion christianity might be the
biggest culprit in that context (i am aware of your athiesm)
Warmly

2009/4/1 sreenivas v.p <[email protected]>

>
> but occupation is used as a tool of repression. the hindu notion of "dharma
> "
> was does not signify "duty" but the economic and political superiority of
> the high caste
> over low caste. considering caste system as way of economic exploitation ,
> there is relation between occupation and caste .
>
>
>
> *, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: ranju radha <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 9:07 PM
>
>
> caste has very little to do with occuppation, i think
> that s why a Brahmin Director of IIT like Indiresan and a Brahmin beggar in
> the strets believe that they are superior and meritorious and practise it
> religiously
>
> one can even observe how Brahmin subordinates behave with Dalit/OBC
> bosses..
> so typical EMSisn way of looking at caste will lead to Katju only
> unfortunately, we have more katjus around
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:15 PM, C.K. Vishwanath <
> [email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> justice katju's position is like dipankar gupta...a dominant trend of
>> indian society-----caste has lost its traditional role ,politicians use it
>> for vested interests ,caste and its relation with occuption is changing.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha 
>> <[email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > From: ranju radha 
>> > <[email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> > To: 
>> > [email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> > Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:56 PM
>> > by the by, sanjeev, why do u
>> > think that all the "anti-social" elements
>> > will have a membersship in greenyouth? (....hahaha..)..
>> >
>> >
>> > in fact this Katju is that katju who wrote series of
>> > artcles in The Hindu elaboratig the greatness of caste
>> > system!
>> >
>> > great secularist indeed!!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM, S
>> > sanjeev 
>> > <[email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > is this katju guy a
>> > member of greenyouth?
>> > remember, the debate
>> > here sometime ago that bearded guys are anti-social elements
>> > who live in utopia:-)
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha 
>> > <[email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: ranju radha 
>> > <[email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of
>> > India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>  > To: 
>> [email protected]<http://in.mc87.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> > Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 10:24 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > in fact, even indian
>> > judiciary wont let you claim that
>> > status.
>> > see justice KAtju's
>> > brahimnical secular stand that stereotypes
>> > 'muslim'
>> > pathetic!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/31/stories/2009033159561000.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Secularism
>> > cannot be overstretched: Justice Katju
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > New Delhi: Rejecting the plea of a Muslim student that
>> > he should be permitted to sport beard in his convent school,
>> > the Supreme Court on Monday observed that secularism could
>> > not be overstretched and “Talibanisation” of the country
>> > could not be permitted.
>> >
>> > “We don’t want to have Talibans in the country.
>> > Tomorrow a girl student may come and say that she wants to
>> > wear a burqa. Can we allow it,” asked Justice Markandey
>> > Katju, speaking for a Bench headed by Justice Raveendran.
>> > Asserting that he was a secularist to the core, Justice
>> > Katju, however, said religious beliefs could not be
>> > overstretched. “I am secularist. We should strike a
>> > balance between rights and personal beliefs. We cannot
>> > overstretch secularism.”
>> > Plea dismissed
>> >
>> >
>> > Justice Katju made these observations while dismissing
>> > the petition by Mohammad Salim of the Nirmala Convent Higher
>> > Secondary School, a government-recognised minority
>> > institution in Madhya Pradesh, for quashing its regulation
>> > requiring students to be clean shaven. Challenging a Madhya
>> > Pradesh High Court verdict that earlier dismissed his plea,
>> > Salim said every citizen was entitled to follow his
>> > religious principles and no one should restrain him from
>> > doing so in a secular country.
>> >
>> > Salim’s counsel Justice (retired) B.A. Khan argued
>> > that sporting a beard was an indispensable part of Islam.
>> >
>> > “But you [Justice Khan] don’t sport a beard,”
>> > Justice Katju told counsel.
>> > The court then said a minority institution had its own
>> > set of rules and rights provided by Article 30 of the
>> > Constitution and the same could not be breached by any
>> > person. “If there are rules you have to obey. You can’t
>> > say that I will not wear a uniform I will [wear] only a
>> > burqa,” the Bench observed.
>> >
>> > The court said if the student was not interested in
>> > following the rules he would have the option of joining some
>> > other institution. “But you can’t ask the school to
>> > change the rules for you.” — PTI
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December
>> > 25th , 1927
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>      Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to
>> http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
>>
>>
>>
>> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927
>>
>>
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