-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear all,
for the moment, the development of Notatio Antiqua had stopped because of problems with Qt 5 and libpoppler for PDF output. However, I will be working on it further on spare time basis and I will try to implement some preview. I think, with the gregorio fonts now available in TTF format, this should be viable, but will take some time. Everybody who likes to is invited to contribute or to amend things. As Mr. Chonak stated, a live preview using lualatex would not really be "live" at the moment because of the running time of lualatex. Perhaps this will be getting better in future lualatex releases... Yours, David Am 11.06.13 12:00, schrieb [email protected]: > Send Gregorio-users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Gregorio-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Gregorio GUI (Brother Gabriel-Marie) > 2. Re: Gregorio GUI (Richard Chonak) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:03:08 -0500 > From: Brother Gabriel-Marie <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Gregorio-users] Gregorio GUI > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" > > Thanks for the responses, fellows, > > I am thinking of something more elaborate, with syntax > colouring, and live preview, and lots of options for > performing advanced operations that would allow you to do > things that you would normally need to do in tex, but > without having to do or know any tex coding (and without > having to constantly look up how to do that). > > The online score editors are very simple, but they don't do > anything for your tex file - you can't for example, change > the staff color to red, or modify the size of the initials. > > Also, another thing I've noticed is that the online editors > don't seem to output exactly what gregorio outputs - some > things work in the online editors that don't work in > gregorio. Thus, you don't get an exact view of what > gregorio will create with your gabc code. > > Here are what I think it ought to have: > > * Live display (like the online score editors - except > those don't use gregorio, I think; they use javascript, > so the output is not equal to what gregorio produces) > * Lots of buttons to help you choose what you want, kind > of like Gregoire uses. These should help you do the more > complicated procedures, such as compressing a staff and > adding psalms and lines of text that you would normally > have to add in a tex file. > * Options for working with the tex files behind the scenes > * Switch between multiple main-lualatex.tex templates, > like NotatioAntiqua > * Produce not only pdf files, but also graphic files, like > .png and .jpg or .gif > * Error reporting > * Live Syntax Highlighting for the code > * Way to store your music pieces in some sort of tree > * Multiplatform > > God bless! > - Brother Gabriel-Marie > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > On 6/10/2013 4:20 AM, Steven van Roode wrote: >> About web based tools for Gregorio: >> Illuminare Publications has a wonderful Gregorio Score >> Editor: http://illuminarepublications.com/gregorio/ >> Then, there are Benjamin Bloomfield's >> tools: http://gabc.romanliturgy.org/ >> >> Steven van Roode >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Herman Viaene <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2013 10:29 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Gregorio-users] Gregorio GUI >> >> On 09/06/13 20:54, Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote: >>> Aside from Mr. Gippner's Notatio Antiqua >>> (http://notatioantiqua.sourceforge.net >>> <http://notatioantiqua.sourceforge.net/>), does anyone >>> else have any other gregorio GUI in the process of >>> production? There was mention of one on the gregorio >>> webpage - but that notice was dated several years ago. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gregorio-users mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >> >> You might be aware of Gr?goire, >> http://gregoire.tele.free.fr <http://gregoire.tele.free.fr/> >> I used it for some time, but apparently the evolution of >> it stopped years ago, so it does not work very well any >> more on modern machines. It's a pity. >> >> Herman Viaene >> >> >> -- >> Veel mensen danken hun goed geweten aan hun slecht geheugen. (G. Bomans) >> >> Lots of people owe their good conscience to their bad memory (G. Bomans) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gregorio-users mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gregorio-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: </public/gregorio-users/attachments/20130610/59365000/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:05:52 -0400 > From: Richard Chonak <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Gregorio-users] Gregorio GUI > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Because it takes 5-10 seconds to run lualatex on a gregorio document, > there's no way for a GUI program to present authentic gregorio output on > a keystroke-by-keystroke basis. > > The best you could get would be a display as in the lilypond editor > "frescobaldi", which combines a text editor in one panel with a PDF > display in the other panel. When the user clicks a "run" button, the > lilypond input file is processed and the resulting PDF appears. It then > remains static until the next time the user requests processing. > > It might be convenient to have a similar tool available for gregorio, > but it would not offer much that isn't already available on the > illuminare web site. > > --RC > > > > On 06/10/2013 10:03 AM, Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote: >> Thanks for the responses, fellows, >> >> I am thinking of something more elaborate, with syntax colouring, and >> live preview, and lots of options for performing advanced operations >> that would allow you to do things that you would normally need to do in >> tex, but without having to do or know any tex coding (and without having >> to constantly look up how to do that). >> >> The online score editors are very simple, but they don't do anything for >> your tex file - you can't for example, change the staff color to red, or >> modify the size of the initials. >> >> Also, another thing I've noticed is that the online editors don't seem >> to output exactly what gregorio outputs - some things work in the online >> editors that don't work in gregorio. Thus, you don't get an exact view >> of what gregorio will create with your gabc code. >> >> Here are what I think it ought to have: >> >> * Live display (like the online score editors - except those don't use >> gregorio, I think; they use javascript, so the output is not equal >> to what gregorio produces) >> * Lots of buttons to help you choose what you want, kind of like >> Gregoire uses. These should help you do the more complicated >> procedures, such as compressing a staff and adding psalms and lines >> of text that you would normally have to add in a tex file. >> * Options for working with the tex files behind the scenes >> * Switch between multiple main-lualatex.tex templates, like NotatioAntiqua >> * Produce not only pdf files, but also graphic files, like .png and >> .jpg or .gif >> * Error reporting >> * Live Syntax Highlighting for the code >> * Way to store your music pieces in some sort of tree >> * Multiplatform >> >> God bless! >> - Brother Gabriel-Marie >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> On 6/10/2013 4:20 AM, Steven van Roode wrote: >>> About web based tools for Gregorio: >>> Illuminare Publications has a wonderful Gregorio Score >>> Editor: http://illuminarepublications.com/gregorio/ >>> Then, there are Benjamin Bloomfield's tools: http://gabc.romanliturgy.org/ >>> >>> Steven van Roode >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Herman Viaene <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 10, 2013 10:29 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Gregorio-users] Gregorio GUI >>> >>> On 09/06/13 20:54, Brother Gabriel-Marie wrote: >>>> Aside from Mr. Gippner's Notatio Antiqua >>>> (http://notatioantiqua.sourceforge.net >>>> <http://notatioantiqua.sourceforge.net/>), does anyone else have any >>>> other gregorio GUI in the process of production? There was mention >>>> of one on the gregorio webpage - but that notice was dated several >>>> years ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Gregorio-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >>> >>> You might be aware of Gr?goire, http://gregoire.tele.free.fr >>> <http://gregoire.tele.free.fr/> >>> I used it for some time, but apparently the evolution of it stopped >>> years ago, so it does not work very well any more on modern machines. >>> It's a pity. >>> >>> Herman Viaene >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Veel mensen danken hun goed geweten aan hun slecht geheugen. (G. Bomans) >>> >>> Lots of people owe their good conscience to their bad memory (G. Bomans) >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gregorio-users mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Gregorio-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gregorio-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Gregorio-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users > > > End of Gregorio-users Digest, Vol 54, Issue 15 > ********************************************** - -- David Gippner M.A. Osterfelder Straße 10 06721 Meineweh OT Schleinitz e-Mail: [email protected] Tel. 03 44 22 12 99 56 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRtvvEAAoJEO0NfzIekFMI3HAH/0KAEVICOBacg9UXZBo5WTrt E6VdDmUBcdM/nxabs73hHgTOHohc1i3GXsoOjbOGd/ZtgO4cmWUIfw6YXROJQvNw IHNnuUfG6Df/8kVEK8KgIfWex/RUrwsIql9XSUIGlIRKWniWSz3wMiWzLYwPbdm2 m5FGqrX0maqSiAToIfXCwpZo83Q1nn3WNCO5/RgzZo2W7F2v1kRCeBBjuedCssRM JmnXKBouzSxq8/OeZ2UjDIZ4Oj+zY+ubn2/lParhhLP3t5tkzk7sN4Po+3ZER10z iE75aJLaFpu34tzBOKsqygZrPH7kt+/blRTWUyX+Tfc9nkrKNdAorrYc6v7SwG8= =OS6s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Gregorio-users mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/gregorio-users
