On 4/4/14, 11:58 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:
Hi,

The distance I have set in specbond.dat must correct (req from Table 1). I
get them from literature.Please see this link:

http://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpubmedcentralcanada.ca%2Fpicrender.cgi%3Fartinstid%3D1482211%26blobname%3DNIHMS61946-supplement-File002.pdf&ei=GXk_U7XNG7GIyAOMvoBw&usg=AFQjCNGUfMCQZYegoRpLGg5D9GjpFsPCxQ&sig2=MtbMKLDYZBbb6ACkGJjyMA&bvm=bv.64125504,d.bGQ


You've posted this several times. I understand the source of the parameters. The problem is that equilibrium bond lengths and specbond.dat distances are not the same. Please see http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/specbond.dat - if your input coordinates do not place the two atoms within 10% of the distance specified in specbond.dat, no bond is assigned. The value in specbond.dat has zero bearing on what the bond length should be.

The His-Zn bonds are correctly generated (req from Table 1). Histidine
nitrogen atoms (NE2 atoms in His94 and His96, ND1 atom in His119) are bound
to the Zn+2 ion. In addition Zn is bound to a water molecule.

You said "create a residue that contains Zn(HOH)". Do I need it? I have
already charge of Zn and each atom of HOH.


I think it is more straightforward, but you can approach it however you like.

I am making these corrections in the right place. I am using Gromacs 4.5.5
on Ubuntu 12.1. The modified forcefield is in /usr/share/gromacs/top.


Well, there's still something wrong, which is weird because the modifications are straightforward. But one thing is true - grompp doesn't throw fatal errors for no reason.

Everything seems normal after pdb2gmx command:
..
Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
....
Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
                     HIS3    HIS3    HIS4    HIS4   HIS10   HIS10   HIS15
                     ND18   NE210   ND118   NE220   ND170   NE273  ND1108
     HIS3   NE210   0.214
     HIS4   ND118   0.719   0.694
     HIS4   NE220   0.882   0.825   0.215
    HIS10   ND170   1.247   1.294   1.536   1.561
    HIS10   NE273   1.344   1.361   1.634   1.642   0.212
    HIS15  ND1108   1.232   1.341   1.321   1.360   0.664   0.858
    HIS15  NE2111   1.319   1.400   1.400   1.413   0.542   0.711   0.216
    HIS17  ND1132   1.710   1.859   1.611   1.666   1.483   1.679   0.826
    HIS17  NE2135   1.651   1.792   1.595   1.643   1.292   1.485   0.645
    HIS36  ND1288   4.357   4.370   3.902   3.761   3.751   3.787   3.426
    HIS36  NE2291   4.538   4.546   4.072   3.926   3.940   3.971   3.625
    HIS64  ND1508   1.631   1.554   0.983   0.777   1.945   1.991   1.718
    HIS64  NE2514   1.533   1.454   0.855   0.657   1.989   2.043   1.756
    HIS94  ND1751   2.349   2.275   1.669   1.476   2.593   2.632   2.320
    HIS94  NE2754   2.302   2.239   1.638   1.446   2.456   2.499   2.168
    HIS96  ND1772   2.136   2.078   1.563   1.370   2.064   2.093   1.823
    HIS96  NE2775   2.241   2.188   1.626   1.435   2.244   2.282   1.964
   HIS107  ND1854   2.863   2.849   2.282   2.122   2.658   2.714   2.285
   HIS107  NE2857   2.888   2.890   2.310   2.165   2.697   2.769   2.277
   HIS119  ND1952   2.494   2.449   1.853   1.671   2.516   2.564   2.194
   HIS119  NE2955   2.656   2.616   2.033   1.854   2.593   2.637   2.267
   HIS122  ND1977   3.202   3.156   2.492   2.333   3.468   3.531   3.088
   HIS122  NE2980   3.347   3.290   2.635   2.470   3.620   3.674   3.264
   CYS206  SG1623   2.512   2.539   1.855   1.775   2.867   2.991   2.343
   MET241  SD1909   1.925   1.785   1.463   1.255   2.023   1.986   2.036
                    HIS15   HIS17   HIS17   HIS36   HIS36   HIS64   HIS64
                   NE2111  ND1132  NE2135  ND1288  NE2291  ND1508  NE2514
    HIS17  ND1132   0.988
    HIS17  NE2135   0.794   0.214
    HIS36  ND1288   3.349   3.219   3.202
    HIS36  NE2291   3.545   3.426   3.409   0.214
    HIS64  ND1508   1.712   1.928   1.909   3.206   3.349
    HIS64  NE2514   1.770   1.953   1.946   3.393   3.537   0.213
    HIS94  ND1751   2.306   2.383   2.392   2.897   3.008   0.728   0.830
    HIS94  NE2754   2.148   2.222   2.225   2.724   2.843   0.693   0.835
    HIS96  ND1772   1.767   1.980   1.941   2.549   2.686   0.692   0.899
    HIS96  NE2775   1.924   2.048   2.031   2.530   2.660   0.717   0.905
   HIS107  ND1854   2.246   2.158   2.164   1.771   1.903   1.494   1.665
   HIS107  NE2857   2.255   2.072   2.095   1.744   1.886   1.582   1.739
   HIS119  ND1952   2.166   2.184   2.189   2.391   2.511   0.952   1.112
   HIS119  NE2955   2.229   2.236   2.237   2.178   2.295   1.147   1.317
   HIS122  ND1977   3.099   2.924   2.986   2.774   2.844   1.669   1.727
   HIS122  NE2980   3.268   3.128   3.184   2.858   2.914   1.789   1.847
   CYS206  SG1623   2.425   1.975   2.093   2.940   3.078   1.436   1.431
   MET241  SD1909   1.953   2.463   2.387   3.327   3.448   0.777   0.894
                    HIS94   HIS94   HIS96   HIS96  HIS107  HIS107  HIS119
                   ND1751  NE2754  ND1772  NE2775  ND1854  NE2857  ND1952
    HIS94  NE2754   0.221
    HIS96  ND1772   0.694   0.502
    HIS96  NE2775   0.530   0.317   0.216
   HIS107  ND1854   1.161   0.977   0.909   0.817
   HIS107  NE2857   1.274   1.093   1.050   0.950   0.221
   HIS119  ND1952   0.522   0.337   0.507   0.306   0.642   0.770
   HIS119  NE2955   0.723   0.549   0.607   0.452   0.452   0.610   0.218
   HIS122  ND1977   0.995   1.067   1.510   1.296   1.309   1.338   1.033
   HIS122  NE2980   1.088   1.183   1.629   1.421   1.451   1.499   1.166
   CYS206  SG1623   1.250   1.213   1.491   1.329   1.390   1.289   1.197
   MET241  SD1909   1.070   1.062   0.908   1.023   1.787   1.947   1.283
                   HIS119  HIS122  HIS122  CYS206
                   NE2955  ND1977  NE2980  SG1623
   HIS122  ND1977   1.073
   HIS122  NE2980   1.200   0.219
   CYS206  SG1623   1.294   1.177   1.388
   MET241  SD1909   1.421   2.042   2.097   2.143

Note from the above output that no bond is being created between the Zn and any His residue. This is likely a consequence of the chains being processed separately. You likely need to put the Zn(HOH) complex in the same chain as the protein, and this is probably another reason for creating a Zn(HOH) residue and defining it as protein. Doing so circumvents all of these quirks.

-Justin

Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 2059 atoms. Deleted 21 duplicates.
Now there are 258 residues with 4071 atoms
Chain time...

Back Off! I just backed up protein_Protein_chain_A.itp to
./#protein_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 4134, now 4133
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 10879 pairs
Before cleaning: 11505 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are 11505 dihedrals,  834 impropers, 7491
angles
           10798 pairs,     4133 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 29026.976 a.m.u.
Total charge -1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre_Protein_chain_A.itp to
./#posre_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
Processing chain 2 'A' (2 atoms, 2 residues)
Warning: Starting residue ZN262 in chain not identified as Protein/RNA/DNA.
Warning: Starting residue OWZ1001 in chain not identified as
Protein/RNA/DNA.
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the behavior.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
                    ZN262
                      ZN1
  OWZ1001     OZ2   0.188
Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 2 residues with 4 atoms
Chain time...

Back Off! I just backed up protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
./#protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 2, now 2
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Making cmap torsions...There are    0 dihedrals,    0 impropers,    1 angles
              0 pairs,        2 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 83.416 a.m.u.
Total charge 2.118 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
./#posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
Processing chain 3 (310 atoms, 310 residues)
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the behavior.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 310 residues with 930 atoms
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 620, now 620
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Making cmap torsions...There are    0 dihedrals,    0 impropers,  310 angles
              0 pairs,      620 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 5584.960 a.m.u.
Total charge 0.000 e
Including chain 1 in system: 4071 atoms 258 residues
Including chain 2 in system: 4 atoms 2 residues
Including chain 3 in system: 930 atoms 310 residues
Now there are 5005 atoms and 570 residues
Total mass in system 34695.352 a.m.u.
Total charge in system 1.118 e
..




2014-04-04 23:28 GMT+03:00 Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>:



On 4/4/14, 1:46 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Dear Justin,

These parameters are present in literature. I think these bonds/parameters
are correctly generated. You said "The previous topology output suggests
not, because ZN is not renamed to ZNW".  I do not know what to do.


Probably because the distance you have set in specbond.dat is incorrect.
  I'll ask again - are the His-Zn bonds correctly generated?  If not, that's
your problem.  If they are, we'll have to do more digging.  You can avoid
the whole Zn-renaming and charge issue if you do as I suggested before and
create a residue that contains Zn(HOH), not just ZN and then a separate
residue for the water bound to it.  Treat it as its own entity.


  I added the OZ-HZ bond in ffbonded.itp. Unfortunately I get the same
errors:

ERROR 1 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 33]:
    No default Bond types
ERROR 2 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 34]:
    No default Bond types

ffbonded.itp:
    Zn NA         1    0.20500   16744.0 ;modified
    Zn NB         1    0.20500   16744.0 ;modified
    Zn OZ         1    0.23000   16744.0 ;modified
    OZ HZ         1    0.09572   221682.2 ;modified


Are you making these corrections in the right place?  Does your .top call
your modified force field?  Are you modifying files in $GMXLIB or in the
working directory?


-Justin

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