On 4/5/14, 2:12 AM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:
You said "You likely need to put the Zn(HOH) complex in the same chain as
the protein, and this is probably another reason for creating a Zn(HOH)
residue and defining it as protein".
How will I do what you say?


Assuming you have a .pdb file, just give it the same chain identifier.

-Justin


2014-04-05 7:13 GMT+03:00 Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>:



On 4/4/14, 11:58 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:

Hi,

The distance I have set in specbond.dat must correct (req from Table 1). I
get them from literature.Please see this link:

http://www.google.com.tr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=
web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%
2Fpubmedcentralcanada.ca%2Fpicrender.cgi%3Fartinstid%
3D1482211%26blobname%3DNIHMS61946-supplement-File002.pdf&ei=GXk_
U7XNG7GIyAOMvoBw&usg=AFQjCNGUfMCQZYegoRpLGg5D9GjpFsPCxQ&sig2=
MtbMKLDYZBbb6ACkGJjyMA&bvm=bv.64125504,d.bGQ


You've posted this several times.  I understand the source of the
parameters. The problem is that equilibrium bond lengths and specbond.dat
distances are not the same.  Please see http://www.gromacs.org/
Documentation/File_Formats/specbond.dat - if your input coordinates do
not place the two atoms within 10% of the distance specified in
specbond.dat, no bond is assigned.  The value in specbond.dat has zero
bearing on what the bond length should be.


  The His-Zn bonds are correctly generated (req from Table 1). Histidine
nitrogen atoms (NE2 atoms in His94 and His96, ND1 atom in His119) are
bound
to the Zn+2 ion. In addition Zn is bound to a water molecule.

You said "create a residue that contains Zn(HOH)". Do I need it? I have
already charge of Zn and each atom of HOH.


I think it is more straightforward, but you can approach it however you
like.


  I am making these corrections in the right place. I am using Gromacs 4.5.5
on Ubuntu 12.1. The modified forcefield is in /usr/share/gromacs/top.


Well, there's still something wrong, which is weird because the
modifications are straightforward.  But one thing is true - grompp doesn't
throw fatal errors for no reason.


  Everything seems normal after pdb2gmx command:
..
Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
....
Identified residue HIS3 as a starting terminus.
Identified residue LYS261 as a ending terminus.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
                      HIS3    HIS3    HIS4    HIS4   HIS10   HIS10   HIS15
                      ND18   NE210   ND118   NE220   ND170   NE273  ND1108
      HIS3   NE210   0.214
      HIS4   ND118   0.719   0.694
      HIS4   NE220   0.882   0.825   0.215
     HIS10   ND170   1.247   1.294   1.536   1.561
     HIS10   NE273   1.344   1.361   1.634   1.642   0.212
     HIS15  ND1108   1.232   1.341   1.321   1.360   0.664   0.858
     HIS15  NE2111   1.319   1.400   1.400   1.413   0.542   0.711   0.216
     HIS17  ND1132   1.710   1.859   1.611   1.666   1.483   1.679   0.826
     HIS17  NE2135   1.651   1.792   1.595   1.643   1.292   1.485   0.645
     HIS36  ND1288   4.357   4.370   3.902   3.761   3.751   3.787   3.426
     HIS36  NE2291   4.538   4.546   4.072   3.926   3.940   3.971   3.625
     HIS64  ND1508   1.631   1.554   0.983   0.777   1.945   1.991   1.718
     HIS64  NE2514   1.533   1.454   0.855   0.657   1.989   2.043   1.756
     HIS94  ND1751   2.349   2.275   1.669   1.476   2.593   2.632   2.320
     HIS94  NE2754   2.302   2.239   1.638   1.446   2.456   2.499   2.168
     HIS96  ND1772   2.136   2.078   1.563   1.370   2.064   2.093   1.823
     HIS96  NE2775   2.241   2.188   1.626   1.435   2.244   2.282   1.964
    HIS107  ND1854   2.863   2.849   2.282   2.122   2.658   2.714   2.285
    HIS107  NE2857   2.888   2.890   2.310   2.165   2.697   2.769   2.277
    HIS119  ND1952   2.494   2.449   1.853   1.671   2.516   2.564   2.194
    HIS119  NE2955   2.656   2.616   2.033   1.854   2.593   2.637   2.267
    HIS122  ND1977   3.202   3.156   2.492   2.333   3.468   3.531   3.088
    HIS122  NE2980   3.347   3.290   2.635   2.470   3.620   3.674   3.264
    CYS206  SG1623   2.512   2.539   1.855   1.775   2.867   2.991   2.343
    MET241  SD1909   1.925   1.785   1.463   1.255   2.023   1.986   2.036
                     HIS15   HIS17   HIS17   HIS36   HIS36   HIS64   HIS64
                    NE2111  ND1132  NE2135  ND1288  NE2291  ND1508  NE2514
     HIS17  ND1132   0.988
     HIS17  NE2135   0.794   0.214
     HIS36  ND1288   3.349   3.219   3.202
     HIS36  NE2291   3.545   3.426   3.409   0.214
     HIS64  ND1508   1.712   1.928   1.909   3.206   3.349
     HIS64  NE2514   1.770   1.953   1.946   3.393   3.537   0.213
     HIS94  ND1751   2.306   2.383   2.392   2.897   3.008   0.728   0.830
     HIS94  NE2754   2.148   2.222   2.225   2.724   2.843   0.693   0.835
     HIS96  ND1772   1.767   1.980   1.941   2.549   2.686   0.692   0.899
     HIS96  NE2775   1.924   2.048   2.031   2.530   2.660   0.717   0.905
    HIS107  ND1854   2.246   2.158   2.164   1.771   1.903   1.494   1.665
    HIS107  NE2857   2.255   2.072   2.095   1.744   1.886   1.582   1.739
    HIS119  ND1952   2.166   2.184   2.189   2.391   2.511   0.952   1.112
    HIS119  NE2955   2.229   2.236   2.237   2.178   2.295   1.147   1.317
    HIS122  ND1977   3.099   2.924   2.986   2.774   2.844   1.669   1.727
    HIS122  NE2980   3.268   3.128   3.184   2.858   2.914   1.789   1.847
    CYS206  SG1623   2.425   1.975   2.093   2.940   3.078   1.436   1.431
    MET241  SD1909   1.953   2.463   2.387   3.327   3.448   0.777   0.894
                     HIS94   HIS94   HIS96   HIS96  HIS107  HIS107  HIS119
                    ND1751  NE2754  ND1772  NE2775  ND1854  NE2857  ND1952
     HIS94  NE2754   0.221
     HIS96  ND1772   0.694   0.502
     HIS96  NE2775   0.530   0.317   0.216
    HIS107  ND1854   1.161   0.977   0.909   0.817
    HIS107  NE2857   1.274   1.093   1.050   0.950   0.221
    HIS119  ND1952   0.522   0.337   0.507   0.306   0.642   0.770
    HIS119  NE2955   0.723   0.549   0.607   0.452   0.452   0.610   0.218
    HIS122  ND1977   0.995   1.067   1.510   1.296   1.309   1.338   1.033
    HIS122  NE2980   1.088   1.183   1.629   1.421   1.451   1.499   1.166
    CYS206  SG1623   1.250   1.213   1.491   1.329   1.390   1.289   1.197
    MET241  SD1909   1.070   1.062   0.908   1.023   1.787   1.947   1.283
                    HIS119  HIS122  HIS122  CYS206
                    NE2955  ND1977  NE2980  SG1623
    HIS122  ND1977   1.073
    HIS122  NE2980   1.200   0.219
    CYS206  SG1623   1.294   1.177   1.388
    MET241  SD1909   1.421   2.042   2.097   2.143


Note from the above output that no bond is being created between the Zn
and any His residue.  This is likely a consequence of the chains being
processed separately.  You likely need to put the Zn(HOH) complex in the
same chain as the protein, and this is probably another reason for creating
a Zn(HOH) residue and defining it as protein.  Doing so circumvents all of
these quirks.

-Justin


  Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 2059 atoms. Deleted 21 duplicates.
Now there are 258 residues with 4071 atoms
Chain time...

Back Off! I just backed up protein_Protein_chain_A.itp to
./#protein_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 4134, now 4133
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Before cleaning: 10879 pairs
Before cleaning: 11505 dihedrals
Keeping all generated dihedrals
Making cmap torsions...There are 11505 dihedrals,  834 impropers, 7491
angles
            10798 pairs,     4133 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 29026.976 a.m.u.
Total charge -1.000 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre_Protein_chain_A.itp to
./#posre_Protein_chain_A.itp.7#
Processing chain 2 'A' (2 atoms, 2 residues)
Warning: Starting residue ZN262 in chain not identified as
Protein/RNA/DNA.
Warning: Starting residue OWZ1001 in chain not identified as
Protein/RNA/DNA.
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
behavior.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Special Atom Distance matrix:
                     ZN262
                       ZN1
   OWZ1001     OZ2   0.188
Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 2 residues with 4 atoms
Chain time...

Back Off! I just backed up protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
./#protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 2, now 2
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Making cmap torsions...There are    0 dihedrals,    0 impropers,    1
angles
               0 pairs,        2 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 83.416 a.m.u.
Total charge 2.118 e
Writing topology

Back Off! I just backed up posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp to
./#posre_Ion_chain_A2.itp.7#
Processing chain 3 (310 atoms, 310 residues)
Problem with chain definition, or missing terminal residues.
This chain does not appear to contain a recognized chain molecule.
If this is incorrect, you can edit residuetypes.dat to modify the
behavior.
11 out of 11 lines of specbond.dat converted successfully
Opening force field file
/usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/aminoacids.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/dna.arn
Opening force field file /usr/share/gromacs/top/amber99sb-ildn.ff/rna.arn
Checking for duplicate atoms....
Now there are 310 residues with 930 atoms
Making bonds...
Number of bonds was 620, now 620
Generating angles, dihedrals and pairs...
Making cmap torsions...There are    0 dihedrals,    0 impropers,  310
angles
               0 pairs,      620 bonds and     0 virtual sites
Total mass 5584.960 a.m.u.
Total charge 0.000 e
Including chain 1 in system: 4071 atoms 258 residues
Including chain 2 in system: 4 atoms 2 residues
Including chain 3 in system: 930 atoms 310 residues
Now there are 5005 atoms and 570 residues
Total mass in system 34695.352 a.m.u.
Total charge in system 1.118 e
..




2014-04-04 23:28 GMT+03:00 Justin Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu>:



On 4/4/14, 1:46 PM, Ahmet yıldırım wrote:

  Dear Justin,

These parameters are present in literature. I think these
bonds/parameters
are correctly generated. You said "The previous topology output suggests
not, because ZN is not renamed to ZNW".  I do not know what to do.


  Probably because the distance you have set in specbond.dat is
incorrect.
   I'll ask again - are the His-Zn bonds correctly generated?  If not,
that's
your problem.  If they are, we'll have to do more digging.  You can avoid
the whole Zn-renaming and charge issue if you do as I suggested before
and
create a residue that contains Zn(HOH), not just ZN and then a separate
residue for the water bound to it.  Treat it as its own entity.


   I added the OZ-HZ bond in ffbonded.itp. Unfortunately I get the same

errors:

ERROR 1 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 33]:
     No default Bond types
ERROR 2 [file protein_Ion_chain_A2.itp, line 34]:
     No default Bond types

ffbonded.itp:
     Zn NA         1    0.20500   16744.0 ;modified
     Zn NB         1    0.20500   16744.0 ;modified
     Zn OZ         1    0.23000   16744.0 ;modified
     OZ HZ         1    0.09572   221682.2 ;modified


  Are you making these corrections in the right place?  Does your .top
call
your modified force field?  Are you modifying files in $GMXLIB or in the
working directory?


-Justin

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University of Maryland, Baltimore
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