Hi Dimitri,

I think that this is a very good outline.

Someplace in the document, you might want to address failure modes that
are associated with each cache replacement algorithm and acquisition
technique. The security consideration section should also talk about DoS
attacks and mitigations.

                              Ron


PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri wrote:
> Peter,
> 
> the below is what I proposed to Bill that launched the thread: 
> 
> ---
> Section 1: Introduction
> 
> Section 2: Motivations and Roles
> 
> Section 3: Caching Techniques
> 
> Section 3.1: Metrics
> - Hit rate
> - Hit time/Latency
> - Others
> 
> Section 3.2: Cache Replacement Algorithms 
> - Least Recently Used (LRU)
> - Least Recently Replaced (LRR)
> - Least Frequently Used (LFU)
> 
> -> Associativity (Direct mapping, Fully/N-Way/Skewed)
> 
> Section 3.4: Acquisition Techniques 
> - Push: e.g. BGP
> - Pull: e.g. DNS
> - Hybrid Push-Pull 
> 
> Section 4: Operational experience
> 
> - Structure to be refined per input
> 
> Section 5: Conclusions
> 
> ---
> 
> comments are welcome.
> 
> thanks,
> -dimitri.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Peter Schoenmaker
>> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 12:47 AM
>> To: Ron Bonica
>> Cc: [email protected]; Routing Research Group Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [GROW] Operational experience with cache based mapping ID
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It seems there is interest in this topic.  But to move 
>> forward we need  
>> volunteer(s) to act as the editor.
>>
>> We already have one study 
>> <http://inl.info.ucl.ac.be/publications/cost-caching-locatorid
> -mappings 
>>  > specifically on LISP.  There is a request for a study of existing  
>> deployed protocols that use caching, and their operational impacts.
>>
>> Do we have more specifics about the protocols to be studied, 
>> and what  
>> the paper would contain?
>>
>> peter
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 24, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Ron Bonica wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Since we are discussing operational experience, I would 
>> like to see  
>>> the
>>> conversation continue on the GROW list.
>>>
>>> GROW chairs,
>>>
>>> There seems to be interest in this topic. Could you guys appoint a
>>> document editor?
>>>
>>>                                 Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> William Herrin wrote:
>>>> Thanks folks. The question was asked in GROW but it seems like its
>>>> most directly relevant to the research being done in RRG. 
>> I suggest  
>>>> we
>>>> move the discussion to one list or the other and 
>> periodically give an
>>>> update to both. Does anyone have a preference for which list?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:10 AM, PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> i see value in such effort. ready to help.
>>>>> -d.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of William Herrin
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:17 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]; Routing Research Group Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: [GROW] Operational experience with cache based 
>> mapping ID
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a suggestion at grow this morning that we 
>> produce a ID on
>>>>>> operational experience with cache-based mapping systems. 
>> Systems  
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> the DNS have been very successful. On the other hand, I still  
>>>>>> remember
>>>>>> worms sending to random destinations on a 56k modem 
>> DOSing a Cisco
>>>>>> 2500 because of the route cache. It would be very helpful to  
>>>>>> determine
>>>>>> what factors allow a caching strategy to be successful and what
>>>>>> factors tend to lead to failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is very relevant to a number of the solution  
>>>>>> strategies
>>>>>> under discussion on RRG, not just LISP. So, is anyone else  
>>>>>> interested
>>>>>> in organizing the effort? If not, I volunteer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Bill Herrin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> William D. Herrin ................ [email protected]  
>> [email protected]
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