You're right Bruno. I misstated it.

Still, node A will ever have no path available.
Whether Gshut initiator sends gshut or withdraws, the result is the same:
RR sends the new path to Node A.

Thanks,
Jakob.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruno.decra...@orange.com [mailto:bruno.decra...@orange.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 1:56 PM
> To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jhe...@cisco.com>
> Cc: grow@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [GROW] draft-ietf-grow-bgp-gshut
> 
> Jakob,
> 
> 
>  > From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) [mailto:jhe...@cisco.com]
>  > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 10:13 PM
> >
>  > Bruno,
>  >
>  > >  > If they are available to the gshut initiating router, then they
>  > >  > are available to the other routers.
>  > >
>  > > Why?
>  >
>  > The advertising router advertised it.
>  > Your example is iBGP. When one speaker advertises, the whole AS receives 
> it.
> 
> If you assume an IBGP full mesh, I agree.
> If you have a Route Reflector topology, without add-path, I disagree.
> Only one path is advertised by the RR. We can always find a node A, in the 
> Initiator AS, which uses the g-shut
> initiator as best path/Next Hop (otherwise, nobody uses the path advertised 
> by the g-shut initiator, and there is no
> need for g-shut). That node A received a single path from its RR (the path 
> from the g-shut initiator), hence it does
> not know an alternate path. Even if another node B advertises an alternate 
> path thanks to best-external or by
> preferring its EBGP path over an IBGP path (both paths having the same 
> LOCAL_PREF, aspath length, origin, MED)
> 
> 
>  > Now suppose because of some weirdness, not every speaker in the AS 
> receives it.
>  > Then even a gshut community isn't going to make a difference.
>  > Even after the gshut, this iBGP route isn't going to get any further.
> 
> I'm not sure to follow your point.
> The route being gshut has a low local_pref hence the alternate route with 
> become best and propagated across the AS.
> 
> Thanks
> --Bruno
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  > Jakob.
> 
> 
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