Policy filtering I described happens on inbound so impact for update
generation is null.

Thx,
R.



On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 3:28 PM Yu Tianpeng <yutianpeng.i...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi authors,
> I am wondering what is the impact on update peer groups of use outbound
> processing?
> Thanks in advance
> Regards,
> Tim
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 13:30 Robert Raszuk, <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > But what we refer here to those ASs that have a connection with the
>> local AS.
>>
>> Each decently managed AS today has strong EBGP ingress policy permitting
>> only specific prefixes with specific AS-PATH which is applied in ingress to
>> ISP network. No more enhancement to this policy is required.
>>
>> What you are proposing is actually much weaker model as compared to what
>> is in place already today by those which care. And those which do not care
>> would not apply this scheme anyway.
>>
>> Many thx,
>> R.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 11:13 AM Zhuangshunwan <zhuangshun...@huawei.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the comment!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find reply inlines with [Shunwan].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Shunwan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* GROW [mailto:grow-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Robert Raszuk
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:48 AM
>>> *To:* grow@ietf.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [GROW] I-D Action:
>>> draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear authors of draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The draft says:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   " At this point, AS 200 *can lookup the local resource database* and
>>>
>>>    check whether there is a real AS relationship between the local AS
>>>
>>>    and the left AS and the right AS"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you please share a pointer to any database or accurate public oracle
>>> where anyone could check if peering relation found in the AS-PATH is valid
>>> or invalid ?
>>>
>>> [Shunwan] Sorry, I can't.  But what we refer here to those ASs that have
>>> a connection with the local AS.
>>>
>>> From the perspective of the local AS, it can manage/hold the
>>> AS-relationship database between the local AS and each of those ASs (such
>>> as C2P, P2P, P2C, etc.).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just over the last few months I connected my AS to number of Tier1 ISPs
>>> in few of my experimental POPs, but never reported that peering
>>> establishment to anyone. Then I have a question - how any (public) database
>>> would accurately reflect any global BGP peering relation to be used
>>> anywhere for filtering of BGP updates ?
>>>
>>> [Shunwan] This is indeed a difficult problem to be solved, and we also
>>> want to know how to solve it.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> RR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:27 AM <internet-dra...@ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>> directories.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Title           : Enhanced AS-Loop Detection for BGP
>>>         Authors         : Huanan Chen
>>>                           Yunan Gu
>>>                           Shunwan Zhuang
>>>                           Haibo Wang
>>>         Filename        :
>>> draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00.txt
>>>         Pages           : 9
>>>         Date            : 2019-03-11
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>    This document proposes to enhance AS-Loop Detection for BGP Inbound/
>>>    Outbound Route Processing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf..org/doc/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection/
>>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection/>
>>>
>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-grow-enhanced-as-loop-detection-00
>>>
>>>
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