Thus spake gengnan (gengnan=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org) on Tue, Dec 12, 2023 
at 09:30:06AM +0000:
> Hi,
> 
> I support the adoption of the draft. Some comments that may need to be 
> considered: 
> 
> 1. The draft was proposed to GROW WG, but the wg info on the top of the first 
> page of the draft is opsec. 
> 
> 2. The meanings of "upstream" in this draft and the ASPA draft are different. 
> According to the term definition in this draft, the ASPA upstream 
> verification should be conducted for the routes from *downstream* or peer. 
> In section 3: "
> Upstream:
>       In a direct relationship between two ASes the one providing
>       upstream to the other.  (See: [RFC9234], also known as the
>       provider in a customer-provider relationship.)
> "
> In section 7.2.2: "
> In [I-D.ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification], see following sections based
>    on the neighbor relationship:
> 
>    *  Section 6.1 for routes received from upstreams and lateral peers.
> 
>    *  Section 6.2 for routes received from downstreams and mutual-
>       transits.
> "
> 
> 3. The term "Mutual Upstream" is not used. It should be "mutual transit" or 
> "sibling". Also, some terms should be unified, e.g., "upstream" "upstream 
> provider"; "Internet peer" "lateral peer" "peer"; etc.
> 
> 4. In my understanding, some recommended operations have overlapped 
> protections/functions. For example, both OTC RFC 9234 and RPKI-ASPA can 
> detect route leaks. Should an operator deploy both techniques or just one of 
> them (under which conditions)?

Both!  See section 7.2 of draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification

   While the ASPA-based AS_PATH verification method (Section 7.1)
   detects and mitigates route leaks that were created by preceding ASes
   listed in the AS_PATH, it lacks the ability to prevent route leaks
   from occuring at the local AS.  The use of the Only to Customer (OTC)
   Attribute [RFC9234] fills in that gap.


Dale

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