> Effectively, a version of Growl that users could not turn off or remove... we 
> cannot assume would be responsible about providing a UI to disable its 
> built-in Growl.
I'm thinking of just a library that is able to draw notifications
without much customization, no skin support, no application
registration, just enough for dropbox to show information that it
wants. The user would be able to download Growl as it's today to
customize dropbox notifications if he wants.

> We now see anything that makes it harder for users to turn off or remove 
> Growl (or Growl functionality) as an invitation to even more angry email.
I think Growl is supposed to implement something that Mac OS does not
by itself but is useful to users, if so, then Growl functionality
would not be something that caused angry emails. End users would have
to make some effort (look in the dropbox forums for example) to know
that the app uses Growl and that he can customize notifications if he
wants to and the blame for not being able to turn off notifications
would be put on dropbox since now it's the one drawing notifications
because Growl is not even installed, and that's the right thing to do
because Growl cannot and shouldn't make the decision about showing or
not notifications on behalf of dropbox. Makes sense?

2010/10/25 Peter Hosey <[email protected]>:
> On Oct 25, 2010, at 16:11:37, Leandro de Oliveira wrote:
>> Maybe these ideas could be implemented in a library version of Growl that's 
>> made to be bundled with applications …
>
> We've discussed this before, and the most recent discussion (which was, 
> unfortunately, off-list for some reason) arrived at the conclusion that this 
> would be a bad idea: Effectively, a version of Growl that users could not 
> turn off or remove.
>
>> This could shift the burden to third party apps because they would need a UI 
>> to have all configuration options that Growl already does …
>
> This is exactly the problem. An application that isn't responsible about 
> installing Growl, we cannot assume would be responsible about providing a UI 
> to disable its built-in Growl.
>
>> As a developer, I would prefer to use this library instead of having to 
>> install Growl or ask the user to do so.
>
> That was a driving force behind the idea originally, and was why we were 
> previously planning to do it. The change of perspective brought on by apps 
> installing Growl without permission changed our minds on it: We now see 
> anything that makes it harder for users to turn off or remove Growl (or Growl 
> functionality) as an invitation to even more angry email.
>
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