Just my 2 cents. I also more or less only use growl because of growl-mail. Sure 
it's nice to get other notifications, but without growl-mail, I'd rather not 
have one more app running even if it is a very minor resource user. i.e. Growl 
Mail is the only thing that KEEPS me using Growl. Other things are nice but I 
can live without. 

What kind of work goes into maintaining growl-mail? I'd be willing to donate my 
time to keeping it up to date, but I am not the greatest coder in the world 
(though I learn quickly). Every time a new OS update comes out, I install it 
day 1, and I've always just manually added the new bundle-id to the old version 
of GrowlMail's .plist and it has always worked for me on both 32 and 64-bit 
intel machines, so (at least so far) no major changes have been *necessary* 
that I've seen. If it's just adding the new IDs and (possibly many) minor 
internal changes (and rebuilds), I can do that no problem (I have access to a 
64-bit intel MBP that I always keep up-to-date, a 32-bit intel MBP that I can 
either keep up-to-date or lag a version if needed, and PPC machines on Tiger as 
well, so I can test on a fairly wide spectrum of hardware and software).

Can you give us more info on what the changes it typically requires are? If I 
think I can handle it, I'll take full responsibility for getting things done 
promptly and keeping it alive for as long as I can. (In all likelihood, I'll 
just be building my own versions from source if it dies anyway, so I may as 
well help the project out instead of being selfish about it).

I am less interested in handling Growl-Safari, as I personally do not use it 
much and given what you just said, it sounds beyond my ability. Though as long 
as it isn't a major headache, I can handle minor changes to it (that is, I am 
willing to keep it alive for as long as my skill allows me to, if people are 
interested).


Dylan


On Jul 7, 2011, at 12:03 AM, Peter Hosey wrote:

> On Jul 7, 2011, at 00:00:09, ravedog wrote:
>> What is the logic behind killing GrowlMail and Growl Safari other than they 
>> are plugins for Apple apps. DO you have to kill them to gain entrance into 
>> the store?
> 
> Growl could get into the store regardless of whether we kill GrowlMail and 
> GrowlSafari.
> 
> GrowlMail has been a terrible support burden, as much work to maintain as all 
> of our other products combined. GrowlSafari is fragile internally, so while 
> it hasn't caused us many headaches *yet*, it's only a matter of time.
> 
> So, we're killing both of them. This will free up the time we'll need to make 
> all the necessary changes to Growl and leave us plenty of time in the future 
> to maintain all of our surviving products.
> 
>> Also, will it still be fully AppleScriptable and have the same dictionary?
> 
> That's the plan.
> 
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