Ludovic Courtès <[email protected]> writes:

Andreas Enge <[email protected]> skribis:

With opt-in, my fear is that we will never finish,

With opt-out, my fear is that we will never start :-) because we’re talking about several thousand packages that will need to be checked
manually.


Here are some stats for substitute* calls:

- 8643 total pattern matches

- 490 matching files

- 308 files with < 10 matches

- 12 files with > 100 matches:

   327 ./gnu/packages/ruby-xyz.scm
   317 ./gnu/packages/bioinformatics.scm
   242 ./gnu/packages/python-xyz.scm
   214 ./gnu/packages/games.scm
   213 ./gnu/packages/gnome.scm
   198 ./gnu/packages/emacs-xyz.scm
   185 ./gnu/packages/lisp-xyz.scm
   182 ./gnu/packages/linux.scm
   182 ./gnu/packages/java.scm
   178 ./gnu/packages/maths.scm
   107 ./gnu/packages/admin.scm
   101 ./gnu/packages/machine-learning.scm

Based on the above, I agree that opt-out is a non-starter without some plan for incremental migration. What do folks think about the following?

For the sake of argument, let's say that the new, stricter version of the helper is initially named substitute**.

1) One module at a time, rebind substitute* to substitute**, rebuild, and fix errors. For the files with hundreds of matches, maybe place the rebinding closer to the bottom of the file to limit its scope, then move it toward the top over successive PRs.

2) When all modules have been migrated, change the definition of substitute* to match substitute**

3) Remove per-module rebindings of substitute*, and finally remove substitute** itself

By its nature, the work shards nicely across teams (or across any set of folks that commit to it).

with a deadline to switch from opt-in to opt-out to make sure we
eventually finish!

I agree that a firm date for advancing from step #1 to #2 would probably help.

Jason

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