On 6/12/06, Kurt Feltenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 04:20 PM 6/12/2006, you wrote:
>In the shotgun case it isn't *as* bad.  With a listed ROF of 2x9 that is
>an effective ROF of 18.  Thats probably only a +3 or +4 to hit and the
>recoil number isn't any better.  So a reasonable skill of 13 on a
>reasonable roll will only hit with 2 or 3 separate 1D+1pi hits.  And the
>soft armor will be much better at absorbing the Blunt Force Trauma
>(probably none unless your GM rounds 6 or 7 pi damage to a point of
>crushing BFT).  However again if there isn't room to spread then it is a
>much uglier picture.  (18/2(D+1) - 18/2(DR))/5.  That is going to average
>8 points of BFD assuming at least enough DR that it isn't going to
>penetrate.  That's still a pretty bad deal for Joe Average.

Unless the shot was still compacted together in one mass, say within
a two yards or so of the muzzle of the shotgun, it's not going to do

The rules say 1/5 of 1/2 damage ranger,  I think  (not in front of a
book), as the range that a shotgun shot gets treated as a single
attack.  I don't remeber what the 1/2D range, is though.  Not much, as
I recal.l.

much to someone wearing a decent vest other than cause one hell of a
wound and maybe a cracked rib.  Even though the total energy of the
payload, in this case, the shot, may be 1500 ft/lbs or thereabouts,
the area it covers grows and the individual impacts are much less
than this total would lead one to believe.

Slugs are a different story altogether.

>I'm pretty sure this is the way it is supposed to be handled, and looking
>at it I think it is pretty reasonable.  A point blank shotgun blast to
>kevlar is not going to be pleasant and has every probability of being
>fatal

Again, it would depend on the load of the shotgun, the range, and the
vest involved.  Against someone with no armor, I would prefer to say
potentially fatal, not probably fatal as there's too many cases where
people have taken multiple hits of 12ga 00 loads and not DRT
(died/dead right there).

Again, this is real world and the game may not model it as accurately.

Kurt Feltenberger
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