On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Onno Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Another failing of GURPS Vehicles mixed TL stuff.
>
> Yes, but ...
>
>> Nobody with access
>> to TL8 tech builds a TL 6 boat.  Even where they're building basically
>> a TL6 boat, there are things you'd use from higher TL.  A TL 8 prop
>> would improve performance -- and it's no more expensive than a TL6
>> one, as the difference is shape, not manufacturing process or
>> material.  It can be green sand cast iron from a wooden mold, just
>> like a TL6 one.  You just need the right mold.
>
> That makes the mold TL8, right?
>

Not really.
To make a piece of cast iron, the usual method is to take a pattern,
bury it in green sand (which is just sand, with some oil or water in
it, so it holds its shape), pack the sand around the pattern, remove
the pattern, and pour molten iron into the void.  For complicated
shapes, mulitple piece molds and sand forms can be used.  For copying
a simple shape in small volume (one to tens of copies, say) it's not
unusual to use the actual thing you're copying
as the pattern.  For higher volume, or where you're making something
for the first time, you make a pattern out of wood, or other suitable
material.

Propellers have improved by quite a lot in the last 50 years or so.
Some of that is material improvements, but most of it is better
understanding of the aerodynamics involved. The exact shape of the
foils on the prop, its pitch,  the speed it's normally going to be
operated at all mater a great deal.  That process lends itself to
high-powered engineering analysis and computer simulation, so it's
TL8.  But once you've got the drawing, making the thing, including the
patterns, is just the same as anything else.

There's actually a whole lot of products where the manufacturing is
lower tech than the design.  And lots more where, if you had some
reason to want to make the stuff out of obsolete material and with
obsolete methods, modern engineering and design would make a better
product.  much of this is below the resolution of GURPS, of course.

-- 
David Scheidt
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