señores, cada vez me convenzo más que la implementación de systemd de
debian es una meirda (por favor no pidan detalles, no estoy para hacer
la historia del tabaco)

Les recomiendo que prueben el systemd de otras implementaciones y que
se metan en la cabeza 3 cosas:

Cosa 1 - Systemd es el presente y futuro de Linux
Cosa 2 - Sí, lo hace todo y lo hará todo, porque lo hace bien
Cosa 3 - Esta genial, una vez que sabes de verdad utilizarlo




Thread name: "Re: [Gutl-l] Systemd nunca me ha causado buena impresión" 
Mail number: 3 
Date: Wed, Jun 08, 2016 
In reply to: Ernesto Acosta 
>
> La noticia en cuestión:
> 
> The initialization software systemd has now been integrated into most
> popular Linux distributions, including the latest versions of Ubuntu. But a
> change in systemd 230 alters the way Linux and other UNIX-like operating
> systems have worked for decades, and some Linux users aren’t pleased.
> 
> Systemd now kills processes when you sign out
> 
> Thanks to a new change, systemd will automatically kill a user’s processes
> when that user logs out. Previously, it was possible to start long-running
> processes that remained running, even when you signed out. You could use the
> tmux, screen, or nohup commands to ensure that a process remained running.
> Systemd will now kill all those leftover processes to clean things up.
> 
> This change is being debated in Debian’s bug tracker, and on Fedora’s
> mailing list. On Fedora’s mailing list, systemd’s Lennart Poettering
> explained that systemd is designed to be “a process babysitter.” Red Hat’s
> DJ Delorie expressed why he and some other Linux users are frustrated:
> 
> “It’s becoming a user nanny instead. I wish it would stop trying to enforce
> its ‘my way or the highway’ approach to system rules. I’ve been playing
> whack-a-mole trying to keep up with all the tweaks I need (assuming I can
> find them) to let me do what I want to do with my own machine.”
> 
> There’s a new secret handshake
> 
> Of course, systemd provides a way to disable this behavior and keep
> processes running, if that’s what you want.
> 
> To do this, a system administrator can set the “KillUserProcesses=no” option
> in systemd’s configuration file at /etc/systemd/logind.conf. Linux
> distributions could also choose to disable this systemd feature for all
> their users, which is what some Debian and Fedora users are asking for. In
> both cases, the feature would be disabled systemwide.
> 
> If just a specific user wants to run processes that are left alone by
> systemd, that user has to enable “lingering” for their account, with the
> systemd-run command preceding the tmux, screen, or nohup commands.
> 
> So, if you end up using a Linux distribution with systemd 230 or newer that
> has this option enabled, you’ll need to run tmux, screen, and nohup commands
> in a systemd-specific way. It would make sense for these tools to become
> systemd-aware to negate this new secret handshake, but they aren’t, and
> users will therefore need to use this new workaround.
> 
> 
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