I would not consider announcing the sides a
problem... or even an annoyance. I am just mentioning the
announcement to change sides happens for me throughout the book.
At 06:08 AM 11/20/2009 -0800, you wrote:
I just read that book on the booksense without any problems. For
that matter, I've read all of the Perry Mason novels on the
booksense without any problems.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Mine does it with the current BookSense firmware, specifically with
a Perry Mason book by Erle Stanley Gardner. It is the collection
of 7 novels. I forget the name at the moment.
At 06:19 AM 11/19/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Then please explain to me why the same book on my victor reader
stream didn't do the same thing? And I don't have it happen withe
the current firmware.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
We certainly cannot blame the fact that we hear "End of Side"
once in a while on the Book Sense or its firmware.
That information is a part of the original recordings and it is
entirely up to those who do the daisy markup to make sure that
the daisy player is told to jump over such information by the use
of a special mark in the file. If the person doing the markup
misses it and then the quality control department also misses it,
then we are going to be hearing the unwanted info.
In other words, a book producer problem, not a Book Sense problem.
Rod
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Licht" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Can we really blame the end of side messages on the
BookSense? If they have been recorded, they are just... there
to be played like any other part of the book. We all have our
pet peeves, I suppose.
At 08:06 AM 11/18/2009 -0800, you wrote:
You had better luck than I did! I kept losing my place, and
getting end of side messages while listening to the books.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Hi Russ,
I, as stated, am still using v1.0 and have listened to over 50
NLS books on it so far and can honestly say that I have never
lost my bookmark or my place while reading, no lockups and no dropouts.
One of these was the 800 megabyte, 75 hour Big Book Of Pulps
and others were very short.
I guess my biggest complaint, if I have one other than the
pronounciation dictionary, is in regard to the low volume of
the NLS books as compared to the volume of the book itself.
I do have one question for GW and HIMS though.
Why must we hear the TTS voice tell us the title of the book
when it is fully loaded? After all, didn't we just hear the
title before we pressed play?
It seems totally unnecessary.
In any case, I have had no problems with NLS books on this
particular unit.
Rod
----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the
Victor Stream
The 1.0 was unusable when it comes to listening to nls
books. I don't use playlists.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
To: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>; "Rich Ring"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the
Victor Stream
I bought my Book Sense standard the first day they were for
sale and have been using it every day since, with very few problems!
I have not updated the original firmware, or, I should say
that I have updated it (twice) and gone back to V1.0 each time.
I went back because I want to use playlists and they did
break that in the beta version.
As for reading NLS books, I have never lost a bookmark or
had a book refuse to play nor have I ever lost my place in one of them.
I do not use audible, so cannot comment on that.
I read my newspaper from NFB Newsline each morning and these
have given me no problem either.
I play a lot of books that I have ripped from CDs and
converted to single files and have had no trouble with these to date.
The one area that I would have to say that I am disappointed
in is with the TTS pronounciation dictionary.
Other than that, I will continue to enjoy my little unit and
be waiting patiently for any fixes and new and exciting
additions to the firmware that may be in the works and on the way.
I will say, that, if I were in Rich's position, and having
as many problems as he talks about having, I would be on the
phone getting an RMA and a new unit!
Rod
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
To: "Rich Ring" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the
Victor Stream
I very seldom have a problem keeping my place reading an
NLS book. I hit the pause button and then I turn it
off. I've never used bookmarks, so I can't comment on
them. I don't use audible books, either.
The few times the BS didn't keep my place were my fault,
not the BookSense.
Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Ring" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:24 AM
Subject: [GW-Booksense] Why I have switched back to the Victor Stream
Greetings all:
I received my Booksense at the NFB convention in early
July. Until last Wednesday, November 11, I have used it
exclusively for all of my reading needs. I love its form
factor. I love its navigation structure. I love the fact
that it has a clock. I love its text to speech voices.
However, I have simply been too frustrated by other issues
to continue using the device. I shall name them here.
1. The device will not keep its place in any NLS book. If
I load an NLS book, navigate to a chapter heading, read for
a few minutes and then subsequently close that book, when I
open the book again, I am always taken back to the
beginning of the book, and this is frustrating. Certainly,
I can find my place, but this behavior should not be.
2. Suppose I am reading an NLS book, and I turn the device
off. Now, I turn it back on, and press "play" to start
listening to the book. What often happens is you get this
incredible machine gun noise. You can correct the problem
by changing the navigation level, but again, this should not be.
3. My Booksense will never save bookmarks.
4. My Booksense is not honoring headings in Audible books.
The reason I finally gave up on the unit is that I
downloaded "Under the Dome" from Audible last week, and
when the Booksense kept taking me back to the beginning of
a part of the book, I'd simply had enough.
I truly love this device, but until the firmware update is
released, I will use the Stream, because it always holds my
place, and it honors Audible headings. There is only so
much frustration I can deal with, but I sincerely hope that
these problems are addressed in the new firmware, and when
that firmware is released, I'll update my machine as soon
as I can. The trouble is, the Booksense used to keep its
place in NLS books, why it no longer does is a mystery to
me. I even reinstalled the firmware that came out in
August, just to make sure. I have done more than one reset,
even the reset where you depress the reset button and hold
down the number 4 key.
At this point in time, unless someone has a great need to
use the device to read computer generated text, I cannot
recommend this unit at all. I hope that with the next
firmware update that I will be forced to change my mind.
Thank you all.
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11For I know the thoughts and plans that I have for you, says the
Lord, thoughts and plans for welfare and peace and not for evil, to
give you hope in your final outcome.
12Then you will call upon Me, and you will come and pray to Me,
and I will hear and heed you.
13Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital
necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.(A)
14I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will release you
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