How one gets their books and what one plays them on aren't really linked.
After all, it is possible to download books from BARD and play them on
an NLS player.

People might like to use the booksense for NLS books because it's more
portable, has more features, etc.

Jim

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:30:41PM -0500, EVAN REESE wrote:
>    I don't get it. If people don't want to use, or can't access,
> BARD but they can get NLS cartridges, why not just get an NLS player
> and play them on that? It seems unnecessarily complicated to hook up
> cartridges to the BS when you can just stick them into a player,
> which, by the way has better sound than the BS.
> 
> Evan
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <[email protected]>
> To: "Louis" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>; "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>;
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Re: NLS Cartridges on the Book Sense
> 
> 
> >There are people who don't want to use, or don't have access to,
> >computers or the internet.
> >
> >Cartridges are convenient ways to have books sent to you via the mail
> >and read on the booksense.
> >
> >It would be good if the booksense could read the cartridges directly.
> >It would be better if the booksense could copy books off the cartridge
> >onto the booksense.
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Louis wrote:
> >>The thing I don't understand is why do people want the capability of
> >>the BookSense reading NLS cartridges. It is extremely simple to create
> >>a NLS bard account and download books. This eliminates the need to
> >>have the local library send a BookSense user cartridges. If a
> >>accessory is created for the BookSense to play cartridges it will cost
> >>extra and take time. The accessory that plays cartridges on the Victor
> >>is about $50. Are you really willing to pay that much when or if you
> >>really want to use those cartridges you can play them with the new NLS
> >>player that retails for the price of free. Personally I rather HIMS
> >>and GW devote their full atention to fixing bugs in the firmware and
> >>adding new features and enhancements rather than working on something
> >>that is not at all in my opinion necessary.
> >>
> >>On 3/13/10, Rod Gowen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Hi Russ,
> >>>
> >>> That would, indeed, be nice, but, the folks at HIMS have not deemed it
> >>> necessary to give us (Book Sense users) the same capability
> >>that the > Stream
> >>> users were given, that being the ability to press one key and
> >>have the > book
> >>> transferred to the Daisy/NLS folder on the SD card.
> >>>
> >>> I, for one, would not use this function, as it is much too
> >>slow when I > can
> >>> easily transfer it using the computer in a matter of seconds instead of
> >>> minutes using the method that the Stream uses.
> >>>
> >>> Take care,
> >>>
> >>> Rod
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
> >>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 8:12 AM
> >>> Subject: [GW-Booksense] Re: NLS Cartridges on the Book Sense
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I thought that would be the case.  Let me give you an example
> >>where >>this is
> >>>>
> >>>>useful.  I have some friends with slow internet connections.
> >>They >>could
> >>>>connect the cartridge to the booksense and transfer it for
> >>later >>blayback.
> >>>>I know some people who do this with the victor reader stream.
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Rod Gowen" <[email protected]>
> >>>> To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:54 AM
> >>>> Subject: NLS Cartridges on the Book Sense
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Russ and all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To put the question of whether or not the Book Sense would
> >>play a >>> book on
> >>>>>
> >>>>> an NLS cartridge from the regional library to the test, I put it to a
> >>>>> test a little while ago.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> First, if you only have the short cable that you get with
> >>the Book >>> Sense,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you are *NOT* going to attach the cartridge to the Book Sense!
> >>>>> The end of the cable into which you would insert a flash
> >>drive will >>> not
> >>>>> accept the NLS cartridges due to the fact that, on the
> >>cartridge, the >>> USB
> >>>>>
> >>>>> plug is surrounded by part of the cartridge as a sort of
> >>shield, and >>> the
> >>>>> end of the cable is too fat to slide into the space
> >>surrounding the >>> USB
> >>>>> plug on the cartridge.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I attached an extension cable to the cartridge and then
> >>plugged that >>> into
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the short cable and then into the Book Sense.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When I turned on my Book Sense, it acted as though I had
> >>just plugged >>> in
> >>>>> a flash drive and gave me the door bell sound.
> >>>>> When I switched over to the flash drive by holding the zero
> >>key down, >>> it
> >>>>> appeared as though I were actually looking at a flash drive and could
> >>>>> actually move through the various modes and folders that the
> >>Book >>> Sense
> >>>>> creates for us on media.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, the message "No List" was given upon opening any of
> >>the >>> folders.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nowhere did I hear that I could play the book that was on
> >>the >>> cartridge!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Book Sense could not and cannot see such books as they are on the
> >>>>> root of the cartridge and not in the Daisy/NLS folder!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Therefore the one true answer to the question "Can you play NLS
> >>>>> cartridges on the Book Sense?", even if you wanted to do so,
> >>is >>> "NO!"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I really see no point in doing so in any case, as it is very easy to
> >>>>> transfer the book from the cartridges to an SD card using
> >>the >>> computer!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rod
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
> >>>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:22 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] first impressions of the Bookport Plus
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you actually connected an nls cartridge from your
> >>regional >>>> library
> >>>>>> to the booksense and it played?
> >>>>>> -----         Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Bud    dy Brannan" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> To: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]>
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:54 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] first impressions of the Bookport Plus
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, I'm sure the booksense will not play nls cartridges.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes it will, given the correct USB cable. It will not, however, copy
> >>>>>> them over to its internal flash or
> >>>>>> SD card.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> >>>>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> >>>>>>
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