First let me say that I agree with Jim. Next let me say that I don't think we should be so quick to criticize others, their questions, why they want to do something or the features they'd like to see in the Booksense or any other product. I learned a long time ago that just because my limited imagination keeps me from understanding why someone would want to do something in a certain way or want to see a certain feature in a product like the Booksense doesn't mean that others aren't just more imaginative than I am or are using the booksense in a way different than the way I'm using it. As others have pointed out, not everyone is as computer savvy or has access to broadband connections as those of us on this list do. I could also see myself going on a trip and not wanting to take two digital players, so I take my Booksense as well as the cartridges I've received for my DTBM but leave my DTBM behind. Again, nothing that should make this high priority for GW Micro, but still a feature I might take advantage of some day.

Again, I think it's perfectly all right to point out alternatives someone hasn't considered or provide some input on the priority of such a feature, but I think it's a bit arrogant to assume that just because you don't see a value in a certain feature that therefore no one else in the world is in a situation where they wouldn't benefit from such a feature. Also, no one should be made to feel bad just because they ask a question or ask for a particular feature.

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On 3/13/2010 12:28 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
So, here are two points that may factor into this.

First, Humanware has decided this is important enough that they've not
only come up with a way of playing cartridges, but also to play CDs
(many libraries outside the US use CDs instead of cartridges) and to
do so without using a computer.

By no means do I think that since the stream does it, the BS should
do it also.  However, Humanware put time and effort into this, and
they did it for some reason.  I'm assuming they may have customer
research to back this up.

Seconly, I don't think the fix is all that hard.  The BS would need to
be more flexible about how it finds daisy books.  There are a few
different ways to do this, but the technical issues aren't that hard.

Having said all that, I have no idea when/if Himms/GW Micro will make
this a priority, but for me it's far from a slam dunk decision for
them, even though I plan to never use cartridges.

Jim

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 01:20:48PM -0500, EVAN REESE wrote:
Personally, I think if they had to make a list of priorities, which
they do, I would put this pretty far down on the list; definitely
below fixing the volume issue with NLS and RFB&D books and improving
the music player. Having the BS play NLS cartridges seems more of a
bells and whistles kind of thing, especially when you take into
account that there's a player out there that is designed for that
job and costs nothing to get.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour"<[email protected]>
To: "EVAN REESE"<[email protected]>
Cc:<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Re: NLS Cartridges on the Book Sense


How one gets their books and what one plays them on aren't really linked.
After all, it is possible to download books from BARD and play them on
an NLS player.

People might like to use the booksense for NLS books because it's more
portable, has more features, etc.

Jim

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:30:41PM -0500, EVAN REESE wrote:
   I don't get it. If people don't want to use, or can't access,
BARD but they can get NLS cartridges, why not just get an NLS player
and play them on that? It seems unnecessarily complicated to hook up
cartridges to the BS when you can just stick them into a player,
which, by the way has better sound than the BS.

Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour"<[email protected]>
To: "Louis"<[email protected]>
Cc: "Rod Gowen"<[email protected]>; "Russ Kiehne"<[email protected]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] Re: NLS Cartridges on the Book Sense


There are people who don't want to use, or don't have access to,
computers or the internet.

Cartridges are convenient ways to have books sent to you via the mail
and read on the booksense.

It would be good if the booksense could read the cartridges directly.
It would be better if the booksense could copy books off the cartridge
onto the booksense.

Jim

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 08:50:27AM -0800, Louis wrote:
The thing I don't understand is why do people want the capability of
the BookSense reading NLS cartridges. It is extremely simple to create
a NLS bard account and download books. This eliminates the need to
have the local library send a BookSense user cartridges. If a
accessory is created for the BookSense to play cartridges it will cost
extra and take time. The accessory that plays cartridges on the Victor
is about $50. Are you really willing to pay that much when or if you
really want to use those cartridges you can play them with the new NLS
player that retails for the price of free. Personally I rather HIMS
and GW devote their full atention to fixing bugs in the firmware and
adding new features and enhancements rather than working on something
that is not at all in my opinion necessary.




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