What I have noticed, is that when I first start FF, the cursor is in
a strange place, requiring me to tab past the address and search boxes
into the page window. I've been trying repeatedly to report this kind
of stuff, at least you guys are getting some response. Can anybody else
reproduce this? Do a search on YouTube, click on your vid of choice,
then return to the search page by any method such as alt-left arrow or
backspace, does the page reload properly? I use to get inconsistent
results. Sometimes it would reload but usually not, now I get the down
loading page message which seems to get stuck.
How about when typing in the search box and you wish to review or
correct something. Sometimes when I use the left and right arrow to
navigate through my typed search terms, the letters are spoken but often
I will simply hear a beep without letters being spoken.
Any bloglines/Firefox users? When entering on a feed, I must
manually refresh. When navigating with bloglines hotkey "s" to jump to
next sub feed, I must manually refresh.
"to start narrowing things down to figure out where the problem lies. I
would begin
by running Firefox with a fresh, default profile. You can do this by
running Firefox"
Does running FF in safe mode accomplish the same thing without
needing to create a new profile?
"We had many Firefox 3 reports from both private and public beta
testers, and have
resolved all of the ones that we tracked in our own bug tracking
database. So if
you have outstanding issues, you need to make sure they are reported,
with as much
detail as possible, to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
. In addition, assure that you get an acknowledgment that the problems
have been
duplicate, and marked down for investigation. Otherwise, it can easily
be overlooked
as list chatter, and we may miss a problem that you find important."
I have to speak up here. I have been doing my best to describe
issues I am experiencing. I have gotten little response until I asked
why, and I do not feel there has been any resolution as of yet.
Hello,
I have the same problem with starting firefox and the startup page is not
loaded in the browse buffer. WE isn't giving any status about the page and
the page seems to be empty. A redraw window or a refresh page solves this. I
tried the -d option and created a new profile, but no change at all, the
initial page isn't loaded in the browse buffer. I have this problem in all 3
beta versions, on several computers with FF3. Also I found many times that
pages are not loaded completley in the browse buffer which can be solved
with the redraw window command. I will try to find some pages to reproduce
the problem, but most of the time it occurs when surfing ebay.
Running WE7b3, XP Pro SP3 US, all patches and updates, 2 gig of RAM on a
Intel Quad Core. But have the same problem on my company PC running WE7b3
with Windows 2000 SP4
If you need more information about my PC and my current installation, just
tell me and I wil provide you with all you need, even a remote session
should be possible.
Cheers,
Ralf
Ralf Kefferpuetz
Germany
Phone.: +49 6082-929415
Mobile: +49 171 950 4326
Skype and Yahoo Messenger: rkefferpuetz7747
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Cole [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Samstag, 6. September 2008 18:14
To: Aaron Smith
Cc: 'GW-Micro, Inc.'
Subject: Re: Beta 3 Impressions
Greetings,
It actually comforts me to know the onclick issue is a firefox one.
Again, I was merely trying to give impressions based on my own experiences.
I have created a fresh Firefox profile,
used it to start Firefox, and was able to duplicate three of the issues I
have reported. The screen redrawing issue I reported can be duplicated on
three sites, including my own brandoncole.net. The visited/same page link
issue may be some quirky javascript thing, but I was able to duplicate that
on one site as well even after having deleted both cache and browsing
history. Lastly, the issue with having to manually turn on browse mode after
I clicked a button using the enter key also still existed. I will say,
though, that my original browse mode issue, the one where browse mode
wouldn't instantly activate when the browser was started until I pressed
something, appears to be gone in a fresh profile. Sorry for all this
trouble. Just trying to help make this the WE it should be. Heheh.Aaron
Smith wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, Brandon.
The onClick issues have been addressed as much as possible in
Window-Eyes. The outstanding issues are Mozilla issues, and have been
noted in the Mozilla BugZilla database.
I am not able to duplicate your redraw issue on a site with frames, so
it's time to start narrowing things down to figure out where the
problem lies. I would begin by running Firefox with a fresh, default
profile. You can do this by running Firefox from the command line with
a -p (that's dash p) parameter. This will bring up the profile dialog,
where you can create a new profile, and run Firefox with it. That will
cause Firefox to run as if it were first installed, with no add-ons or
customizations. We need to know if the problem continues using this
fresh profile.
If it does not, then there is some add-on or customization that is
causing the Window-Eyes to have problems. If the problem continues to
happen with the fresh profile, then we need to see if there are other
pages with frames that also demonstrate the problem, or if it is
specific to one page.
I'm also not able to duplicate your visited link problem, so it's time
to investigate that further as well. Remove your history, and delete
page cache to see if that makes a difference. Remove or disable
add-ons, or use the fresh profile, to see if that makes a difference.
The number of issues and features that have gone into Window-Eyes 7.0
is staggering, so it's important that you get as detailed and
possible, and do as much investigative work as possible on your end,
so that we can get your reported problems duplicated, and resolved
more quickly.
We had many Firefox 3 reports from both private and public beta
testers, and have resolved all of the ones that we tracked in our own
bug tracking database. So if you have outstanding issues, you need to
make sure they are reported, with as much detail as possible, to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] In addition, assure that you get an
acknowledgment that the problems have been duplicate, and marked down
for investigation. Otherwise, it can easily be overlooked as list
chatter, and we may miss a problem that you find important.
I hope that helps.
Aaron
Brandon Cole wrote:
I feel it is our duty to be totally honest here, and so I shall. I do
not think WE7.0 is ready for release at this point. Support for
Firefox 3, which is a much-advertised feature, is at best,
incomplete. The browse mode issues that I, and several others have
reported still exist in FF3, as do the Onclick issue and screen
refresh issues I have reported.
To clarify, Window-eyes now doesn't even report certain things that
really are onclicks as such. This causes problems on certain web
sites. Also, the previously mentioned screen redraw issue, where one
must continuously redraw the screen when browsing sites that use
frames. I have reasons for wishing to continue to use Firefox, and
while I understand the needs of one individual need not be meant if
it doesn't benefit the whole, I am not the only one who has
experienced some of these issues. I only repete all this because my
previous reports meant with no response. There is no indication these
issues are being addressed.
On another note, there is a brand new FF3 issue I have discovered.
Certain visited links are appearing as same page links, when in fact
they are not. This is probably the most minor of the issues I have
noticed, but it deserves to be reported. OI am also still having the
reading issue when composing a message in Thunderbird, but I admit
that may be a script problem rather than a Window-eyes one. I hope I
haven't ruffled too many feathers, but I felt my honest opinion
should be stated. Thanks.
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