Sky,

That's great, but most of us who have switched to GW Micro's product line have received less than helpful and/or discourteous service from Freedom Scientific. Typically, if one feels compelled to call tech support, then the matter at hand is likely of some immediate urgency. Waiting to call back another day is rarely a feasible option.

All I will say regarding GW's tech support is that the experience speaks for itself. You will always get a human being who will do his or her best to solve what problems you are having. That level of continuous tech support, to my knowledge, only exists with one or two other assistive tech providers throughout the industry. Sadly, rude, slow, or nonexistent customer support is turning out to be the rule; GW Micro is thankfully the exception.

Regards,
Steve


On 7/1/2009 3:22 PM, Sky Taylor wrote:
Well, Chip, I am able to get the support from Freedom Scientific, as they seem to like me as a friend, so they give me the support. I have had tuns of support from them. For example, when I bought a vista computer, I was able to get Jaws running on it fine. One of the things I would try doing before trying anything else, is that I would try again at another day to get the support. For example, I am having a problem with my PacMate where my wireless card isn't working on it, so we need to phone Freedom Scientific support to get the problem solved to get it working.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Chip Orange <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:34 AM
    *Subject:* RE: we vs jfw

    Hi Dennis,
    I switched from jaws, after about 10 years, to WE, about a year ago.
    It's fine if you really want to contact me privately to discuss
    this, but I'd suggest a public discussion is much better.  others
    could correct or disagree with any points I would make, and they
    could add to anything I may have forgotten.  I think you'll get
    better info this way, and if there are those who wish to say
    anything negative, and they don't wish to say it on list, they can
    still contact you privately.
    I switched because I found the FS customer service to be
    completely unresponsive; and this was a condition which continued
    over many instances spanning many years.
I also switched when I first read of the GW plans for scripting. I could see immediately what a *huge* benefit such a scripting
    system would be towards allowing many more programs to become
    accessible.
    Not only is the GW scripting tool a fantastic tool for making an
    application accessible, it's also a tool (if you'll forgive the
    pun) which is accessible to the masses.  so, if you and a few
    others are using a program that's not used by millions, and it has
    some accessibility problems, it's very likely one of you could
    write and publish a script to correct these problems.  no more
    begging the screen reader vendor to fix this program in the next
    release, and being told by them that it's just not used by enough
    of their customers to be worth the time of the vendor.  it's now
    in the hands of the users themselves.  this is tremendously
    empowering!
    Yes, you could say jaws has the same scripting capability; but, I
    tried for years to work with jaws scripts, and found the entire
    process excruciatingly difficult, and poorly documented and/or
    supported.
    And to prove my point, there has been an explosion of WE scripts
    since the capability became available; I'd say more than all jaws
    scripts ever published.
    How has my own experience been as a WE user verses being a jaws user?
    Well, I have a paid up copy of jaws with 2 SMAs, and I haven't
    used it in about a year.  that's the telling point I think.
    I find the support to be much more responsive.  are they always
    right?  if WE always the better screen reader for a given
    program?  well, no on both points.  But, GW cares about being
    right (helping you solve your problem), and they care about making
    their product better.  I think they'd like to make some money
    along the way too.
    In my opinion FS cares about making money; if they make their
    product better along the way, how nice for you!  but it's not
    their motivation.  You can see the difference in the last (largely
    bug-fix) release of WE, which was free, while pretty much every
    release of jaws has been a paid upgrade, no matter how little new
    functionality was introduced.
    I'm sure you could get down to the level of arguing which reader
    was the better reader application by application; but seldom is
    this what decides anyone.  most of us have to use a wide range of
    applications, so that kind of comparison is rarely helpful I think.
    Finally, for those who aren't lucky enough to have someone
    purchase your reader for you, GW offers a choice of purchasing
    plans involving a series of small payments.  Last time I checked,
    FS had nothing like it; you simply had to come up with all the
    money up front.  if you aren't sure about switching to WE, then
    why not rent it for a month?  shouldn't cost you too much to try
    it that way.
    ok, I guess I've hit the high points for me as to why I switched;
    let me know if you have any questions.
    hth,
    Chip



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    Chip Orange
    Database Administrator
    Florida Public Service Commission

    [email protected]
    (850) 413-6314

     (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
    necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)


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        *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:48 AM
        *To:* [email protected]
        *Subject:* we vs jfw

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