Actually the first screen readers were as you describe.  They were hardware
cards that got information from the video adapter and tried to present  the
information that it thought we needed.  This was good as long as programs
were simple and text based and wrote threw the video card in a way that the
card could understand. How-ever operating systems became more and more
complex and the user interfaces of programs  followed suit.   Giving the
user advantages and capabilities not even dreamed of at the start.  It was
seen very quickly that there was just no way to keep these  hardware screen
readers up to date  and no way that the hardware solution was going to be
able to handle  the configurations needed. This was when the software screen
reader came in to play.  Software still needed  a hardware text to speech
device at this point but the software could be updated and adapted to the
text based user interfaces.  Well computers were not going to stay text
based forever so a means of getting information that was meaningful and
useful from the gui was needed.  Well the gui works on a system of objects
interacting with one another so it made since to build the software to
interact with the gui in the way that it understands. Also once again giving
the software an idea of what is important and what would just be to verbose.
Now we were paying still lots of money for text to speech but soon
thereafter the text to speech was converted in to software making it much
more affordable. It is cheaper to produce software and keep it up to date
and software stands a much better chance of getting information from the
software that is meaningful then hardware will ever have.  So yes I am
afraid using software to give us the information is the best course.
Remember putting the information on screen the user sees it and determines
at a glance what he or she needs to know.  A box that presented  information
to the blind with speech  would have to make this choice for us. A hardware
device would not have the advantage of set files scripts or even access to
an off screen model  to tell it where things were on screen.  Also as the UI
changes it would be much harder to update a hardware device.  Would not be
available on a lease to own system and how much would you charge for said
device how could you make sure it worked on a netbook etc.  this as I said
is not including the limitation a hard ware device would face getting
information from the operating system.  
You might say well a hardware device would give you access from boot up to
shutdown. Maybe even before at the bios level.  Not so.  fact is every bios
is doing its own thing many of them are gui based now and even if it did
tell you information how would you control how much it provided. No when you
consider all these things software and getting information threw software is
really the best approach. The slim and the speakerlizer were cool but there
day is long past.

Jim Grimsby Junior.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Delzer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 12:11 AM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.; 'Andy Baracco'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: RE: window eyes lockups

Hi Jim, you propose the answer we all want, why is it with sight, the 
problem can be solved, but with our trusty screen reader, which 
becomes untrustworthy, can't these lockups be handled? :) Now if the 
screen reader weren't so dependent on other resources to work 
properly from the getgo, then we wouldn't be in trouble. :) <grin> 
man, the problem is all the interaction the screen reader depends on 
from within the computer itself, rather than it's own resources like 
a stand alone monitor which is just that, a monitor. :) If such a 
screen reader were in a box of it's own which should have been the 
design from the beginning, then . . . we'd be a lot more independent 
than we are now.
Screen readers should be like a monitor, completely independent of 
the computer so it can "read," and not lock up with all else that 
locks up. We'd then have access to about all visually endowed persons 
have access too, but unfortunately the path was chosen a long time 
ago to use computer resources to run our screen readers so . . . we 
stuck with it.

It is way difficult to think out of the computer box I guess, so we 
on this path and we're going to stick with it or bust, so it busts, 
often, or at least when it does, we are again thrown up against the 
"not being able to see," problem again.


Curtis Delzer.
HS.


At Saturday 9/12/2009 12:07 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
>I have seen this as well been generally when I have researched the problem.
>It is an unresponsive version of Internet Explorer.   as I have stated
>previously.  When a program stops responding the loaded screen reader has
>difficulty getting information from the operating system, and therefore
>speech is lost.   closing the unresponsive version of Internet Explorer
>generally solves the problem,  And speech returns.  Now here is the
>question. I have always asked myself why when your computer crashes or you
>have some sort of problem with it to you automatically assume that it is a
>problem with your screen reader?  Sometimes it is but the majority of the
>time it is the interaction between the screen reader and the operating
>system something the screen reader has no control over.
>
>Jim Grimsby Junior.
>Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below methods.
>Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711.
>E-mail: [email protected]
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andy Baracco [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:30 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: windoweyes lockups
>
>This has happened to me as well.
>Andy
>At 06:22 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote:
> >Hey guys,
> >I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem.  I don't mind telling
> >you it is extremely annoying, and frustrating as i can not trouble shoot
>it.
> >I'll be in internet explorer.  I will all of a sudden alt tab to another
> >window.  I notice that is when this problem occurs.  The computer will
just
> >lockup.
> >The killer is i can not get an error or anything from windoweyes, it
locks
> >up.
> >I try restarting windoweyes and it makes the high to low musical default
> >sound from windows.  So there is obviously some sort of error.
> >Has anyone ever seen this before.
> >I'll put my ear down to the computer and hear the harddrive spinning for
> >some odd reason.
> >Any dieas guys?  I ahte the fact that i have to hard reset the computer
at
>a
> >minimum of 2 to 3 times per day.  Thoughts?
> >
> >Thanks,Jed
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