Hi Chip: Actually, our company used to sell that screen reader. IBM developed a screen reader for their os/2 operating system but it quickly died along with os/2 when Microsoft brout out their Windows 9x series. Kevin Huber
On 10/9/09, Chip Orange <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Curtis, > > just a bit of trivia here: > > sometime in the mid or late 80s, someone did produce a screen reader in a > box just as you described. I think it was IBM. > > I bought one, and used it for a short time, but it worked by accessing video > memory via a buscard you inserted into the pc (and it had a numeric pad > connected to the card, along with a synthesizer). it turned out it was only > accessing dos text-only video memory, and so it would not work with windows, > and they said they had no plans to enhance it, so I finally switched over to > slimware windows bridge (the first screen reader for windows). > > until I had to switch though, it was great, because I could even read bootup > menu messages before I went into DOS. > > Chip > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Curtis Delzer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:11 AM > To: Jim Grimsby JR.; 'Andy Baracco' > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: RE: window eyes lockups > > Hi Jim, you propose the answer we all want, why is it with sight, the > problem can be solved, but with our trusty screen reader, which becomes > untrustworthy, can't these lockups be handled? :) Now if the screen reader > weren't so dependent on other resources to work properly from the getgo, > then we wouldn't be in trouble. :) <grin> man, the problem is all the > interaction the screen reader depends on from within the computer itself, > rather than it's own resources like a stand alone monitor which is just > that, a monitor. :) If such a screen reader were in a box of it's own which > should have been the design from the beginning, then . . . we'd be a lot > more independent than we are now. > Screen readers should be like a monitor, completely independent of the > computer so it can "read," and not lock up with all else that locks up. We'd > then have access to about all visually endowed persons have access too, but > unfortunately the path was chosen a long time ago to use computer resources > to run our screen readers so . . . we stuck with it. > > It is way difficult to think out of the computer box I guess, so we on this > path and we're going to stick with it or bust, so it busts, often, or at > least when it does, we are again thrown up against the "not being able to > see," problem again. > > > Curtis Delzer. > HS. > > > At Saturday 9/12/2009 12:07 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: >>I have seen this as well been generally when I have researched the problem. >>It is an unresponsive version of Internet Explorer. as I have stated >>previously. When a program stops responding the loaded screen reader >>has difficulty getting information from the operating system, and therefore >>speech is lost. closing the unresponsive version of Internet Explorer >>generally solves the problem, And speech returns. Now here is the >>question. I have always asked myself why when your computer crashes or >>you have some sort of problem with it to you automatically assume that >>it is a problem with your screen reader? Sometimes it is but the >>majority of the time it is the interaction between the screen reader >>and the operating system something the screen reader has no control over. >> >>Jim Grimsby Junior. >>Please feel free to contact me at anytime using one of the below methods. >>Skype: Jim.Grimsby 909-498-4711. >>E-mail: [email protected] >>Windows live messenger: [email protected] >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Andy Baracco [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:30 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: windoweyes lockups >> >>This has happened to me as well. >>Andy >>At 06:22 AM 9/11/2009, you wrote: >> >Hey guys, >> >I am wondering if anyone else has had this problem. I don't mind >> >telling you it is extremely annoying, and frustrating as i can not >> >trouble shoot >>it. >> >I'll be in internet explorer. I will all of a sudden alt tab to >> >another window. I notice that is when this problem occurs. The >> >computer will just lockup. >> >The killer is i can not get an error or anything from windoweyes, it >> >locks up. >> >I try restarting windoweyes and it makes the high to low musical >> >default sound from windows. So there is obviously some sort of error. >> >Has anyone ever seen this before. >> >I'll put my ear down to the computer and hear the harddrive spinning >> >for some odd reason. >> >Any dieas guys? I ahte the fact that i have to hard reset the >> >computer at >>a >> >minimum of 2 to 3 times per day. Thoughts? >> > >> >Thanks,Jed >> > >> >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> >sender only. 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