You also have to remember that such a drastic change, such as a major
overhaul of brows mode cannot be put in a minor version. GW Micro have said
that it will be in Window-Eyes 8. They are also working to support Winodws 8
when it ocmes out, and that I suspect isn't easy. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 13 December 2011 02:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: I think it's a shame

Peter,

The short answer is that screen readers almost always constantly are "leap
frogging" each other in whose particular feature is better than whose.

You may think NVDAs browsing is better, perhaps because there's some
particular site and the way you use it makes it better for you, but you may
not have the entire picture of all the things that browsing emcompasses.  It
might be in other aspects of browsing, WE is better.

Whether you'd agree with that, there's scripting; few people would disagree
with the idea that since you can script in any language (with everything
documented thoroughly; with online classes, and a wiki, as well as a support
listserv), using the full feature set of WE, that it's the leader in
scripting.

Then there's support; I don't know if you get any support at all with NVDA,
but I do know with jaws, when I owned it years ago, I received so little
effective support that it was like not getting any at all.  Here with GW I'm
on lists daily owned and operated by the company, and not with just
representatives of the company on the list (something unique already), but
developers themselves are here; both picking up on our ideas, and answering
questions and concerns (go look at the scripting list for more examples).

Then there's the various flexible payment plans designed to help out even
the lowest income user (leacing by the month, pay until you own, etc).

Then there's the number of free upgrades we receive, and how often they come
out.  Tell me jaws can come close to matching that?

Browsing works quite well for me in WE, so I never have any need to switch
to anything else; and I do online banking, manage prescriptions, email, the
whole range of sites.

My point isn't that WE is the best, and yours I believe should not be that
someone else is, or complaining because WE isn't (in your opinion); it's
that the judgement is comprised of a wide array of factors, each of which
can change in comparison to the others as the companies to decide to put a
little more emphasis here, and little more there.  things will see-saw a bit
between the companies as they usually do.

I don't see you have a real reason to get on the list and just blast GW with
a vague complaint, without first considering all of the factors that make up
the product and the service you get.

Chip
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Beasley [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 6:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: I think it's a shame
> 
> I first started using Window-eyes back in 2000, and have kept 
> up my SMA and still have 2 left. Unfortunately, I think that 
> GW micro has lost the plot. 
> All the other screen readers have got the browse mode thing 
> sorted so why haven't GW Micro? Although I have the latest 
> version of Window-eyes on my PC,  and have still got 2 SMAs, 
> I now use NVDA all of the time. 
> 
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