Thanks Vic for this great reply.

I can't believe I forgot one of the most wonderful features of Window-Eyes:
it is not copy protected!  How great is that!

This was the cause of one of my multi-month support sessions: I could not
get the copy protection on jaws to work properly on my Vista laptop (vista
was relatively new back then).  I had to keep being escalated up and up,
because no one new what the real problem was.

I finally ended up having to install eight copies of jaws (using eight
copy-protection keys I mean), to get it to work on my vista laptop.  And as
soon as the next version came out ... well who knows, I left before then.
It took me months to get to that "solution".

What a great thing it is for us to be allowed to install it as we need,
without fighting copy protection.

Thanks Vic,

Chip


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 11:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Making Comparisons
> 
> This note is slightly outside of the purpose of the GW Info 
> list, however I feel it is important that I say this here.
> 
> GW Micro gets a lot of negative comments on this list. It is 
> understandable, because the nature of such a list is to 
> report a problem or a challenge to see if there is a solution 
> available. I have no doubt that GW Micro staff have tough 
> skins and realize this. Yet it is important to also let them 
> know what is working well. Nothing wrong with a little balance.
> 
> now as for claiming that another screen reader is better, I 
> feel that this is not appropriate. Why? simply, because it is 
> not true. It is OK, in my humble opinion, to say that another 
> screen reader is different; after all this is closer to the truth.
> 
> Even without the up and coming browse mode enhancements, WE 
> 7.52 works nicely with IE9. Yes I had to learn some 
> additional keyboard commands and investing some time in using 
> the mouse pointer makes the IE 9 experience much better than 
> I have been able to achieve with NVDA or JFW. In managing 
> Novell servers through the Netware browser management tools, 
> I have not been successful with any product other than 
> Window-Eyes. Netware claims that they have tested these tools 
> with JFW, but how they managed to get them to work as they do 
> with WE, I haven't a clue.
> 
> While we are on the NVDA topic it has a definite role in 
> today's market.
> And if you can get a new user to accept the quality of the 
> free synthesized voices that come with it, all the power to 
> you. Yes, there are a couple of better ones available for 
> NVDA that are free, but you better have the horse power to 
> make up for their lack of responsiveness and you better have 
> the knowledge it takes to install additional voices for NVDA. 
> It is easier than Sun Micro Systems Windows Bridge, but not by much.
> 
> To share a recent experience in a Microsoft Server 2008 R2 
> course, I was on a server and I was connected to eight other 
> servers using Microsoft's virtual environment. Window-Eyes 
> was running in all eight environments including the server at 
> my workstation. Can this be done with NVDA? I welcome anyone 
> wanting to try.. Does that make WE better? no, of course not. 
> It is just different and it is the tool for that specific situation.
> 
> Oh, someone might be tempted to say that what I did could 
> also be accomplished by JFW or System Access. Again, see how 
> easy it is to install nine versions of either of those 
> products without incurring additional costs.
> 
> Vic
> 
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