I see your point. My point though, is that although certain brands of USB sound 
cards - like SoundBlaster - does require their individual drivers, most cheap 
USB models I have seen, does not. Do a quick search on EBay, and you will find 
numerous cheap USB soundcards, not bigger than a USB Pen drive, and they all 
are "true plug-and-play". When I got mine, I simply plugged it in, and Windows 
recognized it immediately. I guess these models uses some kind of a generic 
driver in Windows. That is why, I was thinking that such cards might work, long 
as the generic drivers in Windows will load. Whether Safe mode loads generic 
drivers, I am not sure. And since I am on a Non-English WE, I am unable to test 
my sound card here in safe mode.

Well, all I am trying to point out is, if these cheap things are capable of 
working under safe mode, it would be a low-price way of accessing safe mode. 
They easily can be had for far less than $10 US, on places like EBay. And 
although they might not provide superb sound quality for your music, it would 
have been a workaround for those who cannot get their on-board, or whatever 
else sound card to work under safe mode. Big question is if that will be the 
case or not.

At least, it was just as seamless to plug and play with the USB sound card I've 
got here, as when I plugged in my USB keyboard. No drivers needed be installed. 
Windows simply recognized it, and started using it. That is why, I concluded 
they must be using a generic driver.

Anyway, if anyone has such a device hanging around, and could have tried it 
with Safe mode, it would have been intersting to know their results.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Thomas N. Chan
  To: GW Micro (List)
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 4:32 AM
  Subject: RE: window eyes in safe mode


  I think what Aaron is trying to say, if you need some sort of a driver or 
software to emulate the USB to bridge across to talk to the sound chip, there's 
a chance, it will not work.

  Mostly because of the software itself will not be loaded by windows. Buildin 
ones are a bit different as some of the motherboard use the chip as its own PC 
beeping internal speaker and it can work natively without additional drivers.





  --------------------
  regards
  Thomas N. Chan

  From: David [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Friday, 9 November 2012 6:57 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Cc: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: window eyes in safe mode



  So, if I get you right Aaron, those who have trouble with their onboard sound 
card, might even be well off in buying a USB sound card with generic support?



    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Aaron Smith

    Cc: [email protected]

    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:09 PM

    Subject: Re: window eyes in safe mode



    That's a fair point, Curtis. And it seems as though basic/generic USB 
support is enabled (even USB keyboards allow access to the system bios). It's 
those devices that require additional USB drivers that are typically not loaded 
in safe mode.

    Aaron

    On 11/8/2012 6:56 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

      what about such devices as USB keyboards?  Many new computers don't have 
PS2 keyboards.


      Curtis Delzer.
      HS.

      K 6 V F O
      San Bernardino, CA.



      skype: curtis1014




      At 04:00 PM 11/06/12, Aaron Smith wrote:



      It's important to note that some audio devices simply don't support safe 
mode. Not only to the USB audio devices need the audio drivers loaded, but they 
also need USB drivers loaded, and that typically doesn't happen (hence the 
whole point of "safe" mode). Built-in audio devices, and dedicated internal 
audio devices attached directly to the system bus typically work fine.

      Aaron

      On 11/6/2012 4:38 PM, Sunshine wrote:



      correct that is what i did and it did not come up

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
      To: <[email protected]>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:04 PM
      Subject: Re: window eyes in safe mode


      i have to manually load w e after windows boots in safe mode. it does not
      load automatically.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Sunshine
      Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:57 PM
      To: GWMicro List
      Subject: window eyes in safe mode


      I have a question for gwmicro, and those of you who have tried the safe 
mode
      ....
      I have a soundblaster x-fi extream audio sound card.
      I just tried safe mode with window eyes, no go with it, I have the audio 
in
      safe mode checked in window eyes.
      When i try and bring window eyes up; it will stay up but no sound will 
issue
      from my speakers.
      then window eyes will go away, also the control back slash does not work.
      Do i need to use a usb sound card? or will the internal soundblaster i 
have
      work?
      am not using usb speakers.if this combo does not work can anyone recomand
      any usb sound cards that does work with window eyes in safe mode?thanks.
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