I think you did a remarkable job, Robb, thanks! -- Curtis Delzer. HS.
K 6 V F O San Bernardino, CA. [email protected] skype: curtis1014 On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 16:07:03 -0400 Rod Hutton <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Well, it's a very sighty thing they do, people with sight, I mean. People who > use their mouse (you know, it's that little box sitting next to the > keyboards), if they move the mouse around on the table it moves around a > little pointer which looks like an arrowhead. If they put the mouse pointer > on an icon or window or some other object, they can hold down the left mouse > button, move the mouse box on the table, which moves the pointer, and when > they let go of the left mouse button it drops the object wherever you let it > go; they call it dragging, since sighties can even see the trails, shadowy > outlines, of the object they're moving, while they're moving them. > > Okay, with Window-Eyes, let's say you have focused one of the icons on the > desktop, and you press Insert-Numpad-Plus to route the mouse pointer to the > icon (it's the same pointer as the sighties see). Well, how the heck do you > move the icon? You just press Insert-Numpad-Delete , and either you will > hear "Mark" or a dialog will appear. Actually, what happens depends on where > you are in the drag and drop sequence. So, let's say Insert-Numpad-Delete > causes only the word "Mark" to be spoken. Well, this means you have done > exactly what a sighty would have done had they pressed and held the left > mouse button down. Now, since the sighty wants to move their mouse to where > they want the icon to be moved, you have to do the same. Just use any mouse > movement keys you like in order to get the mouse pointer where you want the > icon to be moved. Then, all you have to do is press Insert-Numpad-Delete, > and the dialog will pop up giving you the chance to Drop the icon where the > mouse pointe r is, or you can tab to the mark button and press that instead; pressing that instead cancels the move you had begun and marks the current mouse pointer position as the start of a brand new drag and drop procedure. Sorry my explanation is only for the Desktop layout (although there are equivalent keystrokes for the Laptop layout); and sorry, too, if my explanation doesn't quite do the trick. > > hth, > > Rod > > On 4/09/14 3:19 PM, Dave Bahr wrote: > > You know, I've never understood dragging and dropping with > Window-Eyes. > > I'm sure it's very useful but I've never been able to > figure out how to > > do it properly. Is there some sort of tutorial? All > of these > > applications. You can drag-and-drop things onto their > interface but I've > > never been able to successfully do it. That's been > one of the most > > frustrating things of all in modern-day computing. > I've been meaning to > > address this on list but keep forgetting. Anyone > have any thoughts? > > On 4/9/2014 12:37 PM, Rod Hutton wrote: > >> Hi Robert, > >> > >> If you listen carefully to the info read in the list view, you can >> > >> determine which column is the one before the Read/Unread status >> column. > >> If you then move your mouse through the column headers by >> means of the > >> previous and next clip mouse keys, you can find the >> header clip for the > >> Read//Unread status; you have to find that header >> in this way because > >> that header is unnamed, unlike, for example, >> From, Subject, Date, etc. > >> Once you find the Read/Unread header clip, >> use the mouse drag and drop > >> key, Insert-Delete (in the Desktop >> layout) to drag it where you want, > >> which, as yu said, in front of the >> left-most header. > >> > >> hth, > >> > >> Rod > >> > >> On 4/09/14 5:25 AM, Robert Grimwood wrote: > >>> How do I drag the Read/Unread icon to the beginning of the line? > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> Robert > >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> > >> sender only. 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