Hi Rod,
I did that and yes those buttons did speak then, but there was two lines of 
letters and numbers spoken before example: facebook book buttons it finally 
said the name of the button. My question is is that these buttons read 
correctly in 8.4. So why can’t they read correctly in 9?

From: Rod Hutton
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:23 AM
To: 'tchild' ; [email protected]
Subject: RE: WE support staff

Hi,



The new browse mode implementation means that certain elements which were 
spoken automatically are not done so in my experience, as is yours.

I had to turn on a setting which is off by default to speak unlabelled buttons 
on my grocery ordering site.

You find it under Verbosity, Browse mode, Miscellaneous, and tab over to the 
pair of controls named Speak unlabelled graphics.

You could leave the Scope the same, but change the next radio button from No to 
Yes.

This will certainly cause more unlabelled graphics such as buttons to be 
spoken, and yet you probably will notice more web page verbosity rather than 
less, which is a trade-off.



Cheers,



Rod



From: tchild [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: WE support staff



Hi,  One of the problems was that everytime I tried to send a message to this 
list that consisted of more than one line it bounced back. After FWD’ing about 
a dozen messages that had been bounced back to me from this list, I was told it 
was my email provider, I spent an hour on the phone with them to find out that 
it was not my providers fault. Then today I got a message from support telling 
me that they had made a couple of changes and to try the list. It now works.

So, Ok here goes...

Empire back website After entering user name in the personal edit box there is 
a log in button. In WE 9 it no longer says login button, it only says “button” 
It always read as “login button” before WE 9.

M.Facebook on the home page there are three buttons “add photos, check in, 
more” they have always read correctly befor and now with WE 9 all I hear is 
button, button, button...

On Craigs list, which I use daily in my work I now hear a lot of extra stuff 
read that isn’t on the screen which makes it take longer to read through the 
adds.

Tony



From: Sunshine

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:23 PM

To: tchild ; [email protected]

Subject: Re: WE support staff



Tony and John and others.
I think harshness for a product like window eyes, is a bit out of line.
While there were bumps Tony, you have never told anyone on this list what 
problems you have been having, if you would maybe we could help you resolve 
them?

On 1/26/2015 4:16 PM, tchild wrote:

  Hi John,

  yep! Isn’t it sad when a free program out performs a paid on n and the 
company uses the free one to compare.



  From: john pitts

  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:32 PM

  To: tchild

  Subject: Re: WE support staff



  i totally agree with you, this upgrade is a load of rubbish, you can’t even 
reply to an email and read or correct what you have written, i am now using 
NVDA, at least it does what it is meant to, all the best, john.



  From: tchild

  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 5:53 PM

  To: [email protected]

  Subject: WE support staff



  Hello all,

  I’d like to say thanks for efforts with WLM and other issues. I try not to 
get frustrated about these issues, but when everytime there is an issue the 
first answer is it the web developers fault, which a lot of times is true. 
However, as an “enduser” who is using the product and when a new version of 
that product comes out with “improvements” and what I experience is anything 
but improvements!!! Web pages that use to read great now have a bunch of stuff 
that isn’t on the screen, other pages with buttons that used to read correctly 
no longer do. I don’t really give a rats ass whose fault it is, all I know and 
care about is that it used to work great and now it doesn’t, and if the only 
change that has been made is with the screen reader then it must be the screen 
reader. People who are still using the earlier version of it have no problem 
the pages still read as they always have. So as far as I can see the “up-gr
 ade” wasn’t an upgrade.

  Tony



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