Ah *sigh*.  Thanks a lot though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 12:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: scripting Adobe AIR applications

Unfortunately not. The UIA tree is all but empty in the application window.
This is a very poorly written interface.

Aaron

On 8/8/2012 12:23 PM, Cory Samaha wrote:
> Aaron,
>
> Thanks for checking into it anyway.  Do you think, like Doug 
> mentioned, that this could be scriptable if we could manipulate UIA
through WE scripting?
> Or, is this amazon program a lost cause?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 8:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: scripting Adobe AIR applications
>
> That's a bummer. Nice use of the scripting tools, though.
>
> Aaron
>
> On 8/7/2012 5:15 PM, Cory Samaha wrote:
>> Yeah, I was able to get it installed using immed actually.  I just 
>> found the accessible object which needed to be activated and did 
>> DoDefaultAction on it.  But once it is installed, I just don't see 
>> any MSAA event information coming through, nor do I see any 
>> accessible objects
> to work with either.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:05 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: scripting Adobe AIR applications
>>
>> The UIA to MSAA bridge makes the Adobe AIR installer scriptable. In 
>> fact, Window-Eyes would just read it out of the box were we more open 
>> to who we support MSAA in. I don't know about the rest of the Amazon 
>> program. I do see that there's very little keyboard support to begin 
>> with, even without a screen reader involved.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>> On 8/7/2012 4:24 PM, Doug Lee wrote:
>>> My understanding is that AIR's accessibility is UIA-based, and the 
>>> MSAA support provided for UIA controls is both limited and somewhat 
>>> non-standard in my experience, which means screen readers that rely 
>>> only on MSAA will struggle in these cases. I don't remember if WE 
>>> includes any direct UIA access features for scripters, though I'm 
>>> sure there are those on this list with very concrete answers to that 
>>> question.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 03:36:13PM -0400, Cory Samaha wrote:
>>> It seems to be short on MSAA events (I tried running WeEvent).  Of 
>>> course, I could be missing something.  The direct URL for the 
>>> importer
> is:
>>> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/digital/music/up
>>> l o ader/a 
>>> pp/win/AmazonMusicImporterInstaller-2.0.0._V392838521_.exe
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if that URL is session specific; I don't think it is.
>>> If that doesn't work, go to
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/dmusic/mp3/player
>>> and login to amazon.  Once there, click import music.  When you 
>>> click import music, there is an in page dialog which comes up 
>>> allowing you to download the importer, but WE does not read this 
>>> automatically.  A lot of mouse nav action has to be done to even get 
>>> this thing downloaded.  The only way I was able to get the direct 
>>> URL to the importer which I gave above is because I reviewed the 
>>> source of this
> page.
>>> Cory
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:48 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: scripting Adobe AIR applications
>>>
>>> There may be some MSAA event/window information you could use. Where 
>>> does one find this program?
>>>
>>> Aaron
>>>
>>> On 8/7/2012 2:15 PM, Cory Samaha wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> As much as I don't care for some of the recent products from adobe, 
>>>> there are some programs which would be nice to have access to which 
>>>> use the Adobe AIR runtime.  One that recently comes to mind is the 
>>>> Amazon music importer, which is similar to iTunes music match I 
>>>> believe in the sense that it searches your computer and will match 
>>>> music files on your hard drive with music from the Amazon mp3 catalog.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I was wondering if Adobe AIR has an accessible framework of 
>>>> any kind?  I was thinking maybe it would be possible to get some of 
>>>> the programs to speak with WE, similar to the WE4Java project.  I 
>>>> don't know much about the Adobe AIR API, so before I waste time, I 
>>>> was wondering if anyone else has already explored this area before.
>>>>
>>>> If I am not mistaken, other screen readers such as NVDA tout 
>>>> support for Adobe AIR.  I loaded the above mentioned amazon music 
>>>> importer with NVDA and couldn't get anything to speak.  I'm not 
>>>> sure if that's a problem with AIR or poor design on Amazon's part.  
>>>> If a project could be done to get WE to work with AIR though, that 
>>>> would be
> cool.
>>>> Any
>>> thoughts?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cory
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>
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