I have written to them but have yet to hear a peep. On Monday 20 December 2004 06:33 pm, A. Forrey wrote: > I'd like to remind everyone of the M21 MUMPS supplier in Rugby UK.Thye too > have been around a while and the hardhats as well as the vista community > should be encouraging these Supplier. Much of the animosity regarding > Intersystems arose when it bcame the (almost) only Supplier until > Greystone passed it legacy to to the Open source folks. Terry's comment > only points out that everyone will benefit if everyone is involved. THat > means getting back to the common conventions of the MDC and ensuring that > all Supplier Prodcuts conform to the agreed upon conventions. That reality > was proved by the MDC effort form 1972 to 1999 and it is still true. > Hardhats can continue to contribute by showing where common conventions > provide real advantages to an architecture like VistA which can be set up > on a variety of platforms and users and managers can educate both > maintainers and developers to one set of consistent conventions. Users > (both Acquirers and Suppliers can get together and quickly get on the same > wavelength when speaking of a given capability; that was the beauty of the > MUG/MTA meetings for years and it still can based on a scalable/high > performance technology that continues to evolve regardless of the "dont > confuse me with the facts" types' attitudes. But that technical virtuosity > needs to be incorporated in a LIfe Cycle perspective such as that pointed > to by Nancy in the AMA news. The key pices are their we just need to light > off the effort and get underway. I will certainly be interested in dialog > from anywhere in the world - Supplier or Acquirer. Any hot words from the > M21 folks up in the Midlands!? > > > Arden W. Forrey PhD > Dept of Restorative Dentistry > University of Washington School of Dentistry > > 206-616-1875 Phone > 206-543-7783 FAX > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Terry Wiechmann wrote: > > Let me state it even more strongly - without Intersystems, MUMPS will > > truly be dead. It's imperative that they and their users get more > > actively involved in the Open VistA movement - they can bring a great > > deal of credibility to the movement. Personally, I use Cache for all my > > current development. Its evolved into a sophisticated system that > > provides all the productivity tools a programmer needs to get the job > > done. They should be proud of it. > > > > It's not an either/or situation between the Open Source and commercial > > endeavor. Any organization that wants to participate and take advantage > > of Open Source must also have products to sell. Not only would the Open > > VistA world benefit from Intersystems being involved more actively, > > Intersystems will benefit - it's a synergy. > > > > Terry L. Wiechmann > > www.esitechnology.com > > 978-779-0257 > > Skype: twiechmann > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:57 PM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems > > > >> I will put it stronger. I wish we could do more to encourage > >> Intersystem and Cache users to post on this list. I personally have > >> been taken aback > > > > by > > > >> the serious animosity toward Intersystems that has been posted on this > > > > list. > > > >> My guess is that it is only a few people expressing a lot of animosity. > >> Jim > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:32 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Crash on D ^ZU > >> > >> > >> I do. ;-) > >> > >> On Thursday 09 December 2004 10:27 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > >>> Bob, > >>> > >>> ..."lots of animosity against InterSystems"... > >>> > >>> I prefer the OpenSource solution of GTM, but I would > >>> never say that I have animosity against InterSystems. > >>> You've always been helpful. I hope others feel the > >>> same. > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> > >>> --- "Robert M. Witkop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> VA employees can get developers licenenses from > >>>> InterSystems. Others who > >>>> want to develop VistA applications on Cache can send > >>>> me an email (off > >>>> the group - lots of animosity against InterSystems) > >>>> with their > >>>> information and I will get it to an account manager > >>>> and provide them > >>>> with a temporary (renewable) license and licensed > >>>> version of Cache. > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 20:13, Takahiro Horie wrote: > >>>>> I commented out that line. I restarted from Step > >>>> > >>>> 32 and on Step 38 I ran > >>>> > >>>>> into a problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm supposed to add the line "Q 99 ; Dummy return > >>>> > >>>> for Cache 5", but the > >>>> > >>>>> source code is: > >>>>> > >>>>> --- snippet --- > >>>>> > >>>>> ;To get available jobs from Cache 5.0 > >>>>> I v'<5 D Q AVJ > >>>>> . X "S ZOSV=$ZU(5),%=$ZU(5,""%SYS"") S > >>>>> AVJ=$system.License.LUAvailable(),%=$ZU(5,ZOSV)" > >>>>> ;Return fixed value not known version > >>>>> Q 15 > >>>>> ; > >>>>> PRIINQ() ; > >>>>> Q 8 > >>>>> > >>>>> --- endsnippet --- > >>>>> > >>>>> Do I change the "Q 15" to "Q 99" ? I'm not sure > >>>> > >>>> what to do. > >>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> Takahiro > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16:01PM -0500, Nancy E. > >>>> > >>>> Anthracite wrote: > >>>>>> That appears to come from > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ;The next line keeps sign-on users from taking > >>>> > >>>> the last slot > >>>> > >>>>>> ;It can be commented out if not needed. > >>>>>> JOBCHK I $$AVJ^%ZOSV()<3 W $C(7),!!,"** TROUBLE > >>>> > >>>> ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! **" G > >>>> > >>>>>> HALT > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ... so I guess it probably has to do with the > >>>> > >>>> Cache Jobs and something must > >>>> > >>>>>> have gone wrong when you did step 38. Can you > >>>> > >>>> go back and try that again? > >>>> > >>>>>> On Wednesday 08 December 2004 04:31 pm, Takahiro > >>>> > >>>> Horie wrote: > >>>>>>> I'm trying to install VistA following the > >>>> > >>>> instructions on for the > >>>> > >>>>>>> Cache/Windows install guide. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Step 91, when I type D ^ZU, I get an error > >>>> > >>>> message > >>>> > >>>>>>> ** TROUBLE ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! ** > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And the terminal window closes itself > >>>> > >>>> automatically. > >>>> > >>>>>>> I tried to re-open the terminal and I entered: > >>>>>>> USER>D ^%CD > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Namespace: VISTA > >>>>>>> You're in namespace VISTA > >>>>>>> Default directory is c:\cachesys\mgr\vista\ > >>>>>>> VISTA> D ^ZU > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But I get the same error message again. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any ideas what to do so I can complete the > >>>> > >>>> installation? > >>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Takahiro > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>>>>> SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product > >>>> > >>>> Guide > >>>> > >>>>>>> Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > >>>> > >>>> Products from real users. > >>>> > >>>>>>> Discover which products truly live up to the > >>>> > >>>> hype. 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