Industrial hemp, digested to methane and powering fuel cells.

Dave Gibney
Pullman, WA 

  And it wasn't the Governor :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:57 PM
> To: The Hardware List
> Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
> 
> I am all about Ethanol. Unfortunately in the US the corn farmers are
> pushing for it. Making Ethanol from Corn is the most inefficient way of
> doing it, and supposedly yeilds less energy than what was spent in
> producing it.
> 
> Making Ethanol from sugar cane, as Brazil has done, makes MORE energy than
> what was spent in producing it, and has limited Brazil's dependance on
> foreign oil.
> 
> 
> >From: "jeff.lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: Wed Aug 17 15:43:42 CDT 2005
> >To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
> >Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
> 
> >Hell, we can grow ethanol. Read the stars, guys, we are getting screwed!
> The
> >oil companies have been crying for years that oil prices are way behind
> >inflation. I say, so what! I thought the idea was to keep inflation down
> in
> >the first place. The Government needs to include fuel and food in the
> >inflation indicators. Of course, if they do prime interest rates would be
> at
> >50% or more by now!
> >
> >We have plenty of alternatives to gas and battery....so why not use them?
> We
> >all know why. I think if this keeps up, and I see no reason for it not
> >too(with the oil companies' and Arab greed....can you say jihad in
> >disguise), we will see a flood of small companies offering conversions to
> >anything from chicken manure to corn flakes.
> >
> >BTW. Our new piece of crap Governor just signed a 9.5 cent increase in
> our
> >state gas taxes......highest in the US......again! OH......$6.00 per
> carton
> >increase for cigarettes, $6.00 per gallon booze, reinitiated the only
> estate
> >taxes, and a whole lot more. We really need that right now!
> >
> >Sorry....had a senior moment and had to get that out. My fixed income
> will
> >go up about $2.50 a month. Chris, you're right....I will not do math in
> >class............................
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >From: "Ben Ruset" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Subject: Re: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
> >
> >
> >>A few years ago BMW showed off a 5 series that ran off water. It cracked
> >>the water into hydrogen within the car itself.
> >>
> >> Of course that tech won't ever see the light of day. :(
> >>
> >>>From: 007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Date: Wed Aug 17 13:26:05 CDT 2005
> >>>To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
> >>>Subject: RE: Re: [H] Gas prices
> >>
> >>>The most fuel efficient cars use heavy water.
> >>>
> >>>007.
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher
> Fisk
> >>>Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 2:16 PM
> >>>To: The Hardware List
> >>>Subject: Re: Re: [H] Gas prices
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Ben Ruset wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> It's funny, though, that the gas companies are posting record
> profits.
> >>>> So I really wonder how much of this is an increase in oil price, and
> how
> >>>> much is just an excuse to charge more for gasoline.
> >>>
> >>>I look at it this way, assuming that a gas company wants to make 5%
> profit
> >>>on every gallon of gas, it's in thier interest to have thier costs go
> up
> >>>5% because then thier profit goes up too.
> >>>
> >>>Instead of making 5cents on gas that costs them $1.00 to make they make
> 6
> >>>cents profit on gas that cost them $1.05 to make (Or similar, you get
> my
> >>>point =)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Also, the gas we have now was made with oil that cost $50/barrel
> instead
> >>>of oil that cost $65/barrel, yet we're being charged the $65/barrel
> price!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Christopher Fisk
> >>>--
> >>>I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
> >>>I WILL NOT DO MATH IN CLASS
> >>> Lisa Simpson on chalkboard in episode BABF07


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