Re: [H] Serious battery life bug found in newIntelProcessorkepthidden by Wintel and press

[Greg Sevart]

This deal:
http://www.slickdeals.net/?fromMonth=1&fromDay=1&fromYear=2006&toMonth=1&toDay=10&toYear=2006&site=slickdeals&pastdeals=Go#p6930
was the deal I was referring to in my previous message. It was a 1.866DC 
"Core Duo" from Dell on 1/6/06.

What I'm uncertain of, however, is if they were actually shipped en masse. I 
could be mistaken on that part.

Greg

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Serious battery life bug found in 
newIntelProcessorkepthidden by Wintel and press


Yes, I get that the Core Duo is just a new name for the Yonah that we
have been waiting for.  But Anand's article doesn't mention anything
that I saw about them already shipping.

This article (dated 13 Jan) says that Core Duo laptops from Dell and
others are not available yet:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28955

This article (27 Jan) says that Acer and Sony just started shipping,
but Dell, Apple, Gateway, HP, and Lenovo have not:
http://news.com.com/Intels+Core+Duo+health+causes+PC+industry+pain/2100-1006_3-6032252.html

More info on the various models and features being offered from
different vendors:
http://www.cnet.com/4520-6022_1-6410042.html

Something is not right here.  How could Dell have been shipping DC
laptops weeks ago when all the articles I was able to Google say they
are still waiting or are behind Apple?  Are the articles wrong?

Also, I really hate all these crappy codenames and marketing slogans.
Whatever happened to the good old days with simple naming conventions
and easy to compare products.  Oh wait, thats right - we don't want
the consumer to know what they are buying so they have to trust our
marketing hype.

On 2/1/06, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Negative. From page 2 of the article you linked:

"The Core Duo microprocessor is nothing more than the dual core Yonah 
we've
been talking about for quite a while now; and the 945 Express chipset 
should
sound very familiar as it is a mobile version of the 945 chipset that was
released on the desktop side last year.
Now the combination of the Core Duo processor, 945 Express chipset and 
the
3945ABG wireless solution is what is known as the Napa platform.  In 
other
words, the code name for Centrino Duo is Napa.  Its predecessor is 
Sonoma,
which is the code name for the Centrino platform that was composed of 
Intel's
Pentium M (based on Dothan), 915 chipset and 2915ABG wireless solution. 
We
will refer to Napa and Sonoma later in this article, so just keep in mind
that Napa is the current Centrino Duo while Sonoma is the previous
generation Centrino based on Dothan. "

Core Duo is nothing more than Yonah DC.

Dell was shipping DC Yonah laptops (AKA Core Duo machines) for at least a
week prior to Apple's announcement. I can personally recall looking at a 
DC
1.86 Yonah at Dell the week before Apple's launch.

In short: ANY dual core Intel laptop is Core Duo.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Hardware List" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Serious battery life bug found in new
IntelProcessorkepthidden by Wintel and press


> http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=2663
>
> How has Dell been shipping Core Duo when it didn't launch until 6 Jan?
>
> According to Anand, the Pentium M is the Dothan/Yonah core and Core
> Duo is the Sonoma/Napa core.  Unless there is something else I am
> missing.
>
> Now, they are still using the Centrino name for their new laptops but
> it will be the Core Duo and a new chipset instead of Pentium-M.
>
> On 2/1/06, Greg Sevart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Any dual core Pentium M chips are technically "Core Duo". Dell has 
>> been
>> shipping Dual Core P-M / Core Duo laptops for a while--even before 
>> Apple
>> announced.
>>
>> All that Core Duo is is the Yonah DC P-M.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brian Weeden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "The Hardware List" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 9:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: [H] Serious battery life bug found in new Intel
>> Processorkepthidden by Wintel and press
>>
>>
>> > The CoreDuo is Intel's new mobile CPU line and to the best of my
>> > knowledge no current products have it.  The first ones will be the 
>> > new
>> > Mac Book Pros announced by Jobs.  The other major notebook
>> > manufactureres will be close behind.
>> >
>> > You have a "dual core" CPU but not a CoreDou, which is the new
>> > marketing name.  Intel is dropping the name Pentium.
>> >
>> > On 2/1/06, Mark Dodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> How would I know if I have a "Core Duo"???
>> >> I have a laptop with dual cores or at least dnet says it is. Is 
>> >> there
>> >> some
>> >> kind of logo?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Mark Dodge
>> >> MD Computers
>> >> 360-772-2433
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
>> >> Weeden
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:30 AM
>> >> To: hwg
>> >> Subject: [H] Serious battery life bug found in new Intel Processor
>> >> kepthidden by Wintel and press
>> >>
>> >> http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/29/opinion_core_duo_microsoft_power_drain/
>> >>
>> >> If you plug a USB 2.0 device into one of the new Inteo Core Duo
>> >> laptops,
>> >> it
>> >> reduces the battery life by 80 minutes.
>> >>
>> >> Microsoft and Intel knew about this bug months ago but didn't 
>> >> bother
>> >> to
>> >> tell
>> >> anyone.  Many "tech journalists" have evaluated the laptops and 
>> >> none
>> >> of
>> >> them
>> >> found this bug.
>> >>
>> >> The Core Duo is the chip that all of Apple's new laptops and 
>> >> Intel's
>> >> entire
>> >> new line of laptops is built on.  Intel blames M$ drivers, which is
>> >> interesting.
>> >> --
>> >> Brian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Brian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Brian
>> >
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>
>
> --
> Brian
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Brian