It is really two different issues - the "Vista Ready" issue and the "Vista Basic" issue. They were trying to wrap them all into one big lawsuit and that's what the judge said no-no to.
----- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A $2000 computer isn't coming with Vista Basic though. Unless the > upgrade coupon that came with PC's that shipped with XP Home only > entitles you to Vista Home Basic... then I'd see why people are pissed. > > Brian Weeden wrote: > > I agree with you. But you'd still be pretty pissed if you spent $2,000 > on a > > new PC in November 2007 and find out that you have to buy a new one in > two > > months later to run the full windows Vista when the salesmen assured you > > that it was "Vista Capable". It was all about driving Christmas sales > of > > PCs even though Vista wasn't shipping until after the holidays. > > > > Like I said, when the judge said the lawsuit has to argue whether Vista > > Basic is still Vista, that's a win for Microsoft. > > > > ----- > > Brian Weeden > > Technical Consultant > > Secure World Foundation > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ben Ruset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> I don't agree. It's still the Vista code base. It has more "features" > >> and changes from XP. > >> > >> A BMW 3 series is still a BMW, despite it not having all of the > features > >> of the 7 series. > >> > >> Vista Basic is designed for cheap/low-end PC's, so it's not like they'd > >> be able to run Aero. Is a cheap home PC going to back up to a network > >> share? It's likely to be the only PC in the house. I'm not sure about > >> DX10, but again, is it going to be a gaming PC with a crap video card? > >> Games? Oh no, no Chess Titans! And Vista Meeting? What's that - the > >> replacement for Netmeeting? Is the target demographic going to care > >> about it? > >> > >> If any version of Vista will boot and run on the thing, it's "Vista > >> Capable" in my book. > >> > >> Brian Weeden wrote: > >>> To repeat what was posted before, Basic has: > >>> > >>> * No Aero (the cool glassy GUI for Vista) > >>> * No backup to anything but local > >>> * No DirectX10 > >>> * Doesn't come with new Vista games and themes > >>> * Windows Vista Meeting not present > >>> > >>> In other words, Vista Basic has none of the "features" that make Vista > a > >> new > >>> OS and is very limited in how you can use it. And if your PC was > >> labeled > >>> "Vista Capable" you can't run full Vista on it, only the Basic > version. > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- > >>> Brian Weeden > >>> Technical Consultant > >>> Secure World Foundation > > >
