Stan,
I do so get your focus. But, I have moved to Intel C2D, right or wrong for
my updates/upgrades. I will just have to deal with stuff I miss because of
this decision. ATM, Intel represents a larger choice than AMD does. Yes, I
do so want AMD to keep on trucking! Intel needs all the competition they
can get. I have zero bad comments about any AMD cpu I have ever used in the
last 10 years. I still use two of them ATM, and both run just like
torpedoes; hot-straight-normal ('hot' being a relative term, LOL!).
It is still all good right now. I will look at the ATI video cards in any case.
Best,
Duncan
At 16:38 11/19/2008 -0600, you wrote:
I agree that either companies products would be fine. Personally speaking,
I've upgraded my gaming box from an AMD 3850 to their current 4850 using
Catalyst drivers going way back with zero issues. In December AMD is
introducing a fascinating new mainstream feature called, "Stream
computing" in version 8.12 which more or less turns your video card
somewhat into a parallel processing super computer. That MSI card only has
80 streaming processors but is still (at least for some apps) considerably
more powerful than your core 2 duo. nVidia also does this with CUDA and it
should be interesting to see where this leads in the months and years
ahead. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is one stream computing app I've been using for many
months now and its way more powerful than the CPU version. Good Luck!
DHSinclair wrote:
j.,
Yes, thank you. I do understand. I do know that I will be doing your
'It's simple' kind of test. I do have to test the waters and form my own
opinion. Yes, most is truly better than my very old Matrox cards. I do
accept this. I do know their limitations. But, in a pinch, they still
light up and allow most basic setup functions (which is what I use them
for). I do not have any new technology spares lying around anymore. I am
now brand new to the new PCI interfaces.
Ouch! New lump on head!!!!!! LOL!
Best,
Duncan
At 11:48 11/19/2008 -0800, you wrote:
Mis-quotes of how bad ATI's driver issues are starting to wear thin.
Both companies have issues that arise, generally with AGP video support
or specific games, then maybe something else like general stability.
The driver package is the same for the entire product line, true also
with Nvidia.
It's simple: You buy, try, scrutinize, & return within 30 days if
there's trouble. Anything has to be better than old Matrox cards, as
good as they were in their day and at $30 it could cost a lot more to try.
DHSinclair wrote:
Stan,
Well, yes and no. Yes, I have a new/replacement PC built; a
C2D/P45/DDR3 that is just missing a video card. I do have 3 PCI cards
that I can try, but I have to take another PC down to try. ATM, my
spare G200-PCI may be bad. I will confirm this tonight.
And, no, you missed nothing. I did appreciate the suggestion and the
link to the Anandtech review. I may have to re-read the review. Perhaps
I missed something. I just was not impressed with the video card's
power usage, resources, and the driver (ATI) issues.
However, as a first time try with a PCI-e card, the price and features
are appealing.
I have listened to the collective banter ATI vs. nVidia through the
last 3 series of video cards. Sorry, I remain hopelessly confused
still. And, now I have to learn/deal with a brand new card interface also.
My apologies.
Best,
Duncan
At 16:55 11/18/2008 -0600, you wrote:
quote: But, I have this brandy, spanking, new set of toys that need a
video card just to see if it even works...... :)
Did I misunderstand something?
DHSinclair wrote:
J/Stan,
Hey! Hey! It is a Guinea Pig; not a hamster. Yes, I may be 1 or 2
generations behind. I use AMD Barton 2500+'s, an AMD TBird 1400M, and
some Intel P3's. Most of my video cards are nVidia GeForce 4's or
nVidia FX5500's. Yes, not top drawer, but it all seems to do OK for
my needs. I am not into PC-based HD video. I do not even own a
wide-screen flat panel monitor yet. Sheesh! Perhaps it is time to
banish myself from this collective! LOL!
I did read the Anandtech review of the card Stan suggested. While it
does seem to work OK, it does seem to have several power and resource
negatives. They also mentioned driver problems with this card also. I
have not been an ATI user either. The only ATI video anything I have
is the on-board 3D Rage IIC PCI chip in the server-works Intel m/b.
And, it is beginning to show signs of serious age and some video
degradation. (This is why I still hoard old PCI Matrox cards)! But,
the server is not the issue at hand. I am looking for mid-level
PCI-X cards now.
When I rebuild my gaming machine, we will talk top drawer cards!
Thank you for the suggestion. I will re-read the review. Perhaps I am
just too new to this new video revolution.
Best,
Duncan
At 01:44 11/18/2008 -0800, you wrote:
Given what he's been running on, I'm sure a hamster on a wheel is
faster! ;)
A review on Anandtech for it:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3444
Stan Zaske wrote:
Duncan just wanted to have a video card that was competent for web
based video and this card is obviously overkill for that but the
price is very reasonable. It should even be powerful enough for
some casual gaming at low resolutions.
maccrawj wrote:
Gotta love how Newegg's specs are always flat out wrong or have
the wrong definition.
The GPU is HD4350 but that's the card model, not the actual GPU's
model, LOL!
For accelerated video, you're probably write but I'd be suspect
just based on how low the price is.
