Good software out there let's you use a blackberry or iphone as a remote. Decent.
Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: DSinc <dx7...@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:18:57 To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] Universal remotes? Bino, Thanks for the shout. OK, I think I have it. Pronto is too expensive. Look at Harmony; except maccrawj does not care for Logitech. That is my read ATM. Some $$$ and personal bias bashing is going on. Fine. This I expect here. At this point I am frightened to do anything. I will continue with this thread.... Duncan Bino Gopal wrote: > Duncan, I can't say for sure but there should be no reason to get a Pronto > or anything that expensive; and a lot of maccrawj's complaints seemed to be > about the Pronto specifically (please correct me if I'm wrong), and that's > the old tech; even the 1000 is a bit old now. > > Anyway, the Harmony One (~$250; online it was $175 from Amazon and I got > Best Buy to price match that; YMMV) should do everything you need and at > that price point is very attractive. There are lesser Harmonys out there > that could also work fine too; any of those should do you good. As Anthony > said, it's easy to set up and you have better things to do than spend time > fiddling with remote codes. Here's the link to the Harmony One on Amazon > ($199 now): > > http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Advanced-Universal-Remote/dp/B00119T6 > NQ > > Read the reviews there; those should give you a good idea of what to expect > too. HTH. > > BINO > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com > [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 12:50 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Universal remotes? > > OK. Perhaps I misunderstood. Is there some other choice between Pronto > and Harmony? Yes, the Pronto is still very pricey to my view...... :) > Duncan > > > tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: >> No, if your going to spend like that, grab a harmony 1000. At less then > $500, nothing compares. >> >> Sent via BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DSinc <dx7...@bellsouth.net> >> >> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:17:55 >> To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> >> Subject: Re: [H] Universal remotes? >> >> >> Understand S.A.F. I do not have this worry, but I am living with 6 >> remotes. Plus I have none of the modern conveniences and media channels >> that most on this list use. I still have yet to select an AV Rcvr. >> >> I get the impression that there are 2 strong camps here; Logitech >> Harmony and the older Pronto. Everything else is futz? Am I close? >> I do so recall years ago when Pronto was ~$1K. Hope it is cheaper now. >> >> Interesting thread. Thanks, >> Duncan >> >> >> tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: >>> Waf trumps everything, I completely agree. >>> Sent via BlackBerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:01:04 >>> To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> >>> Subject: Re: [H] Universal remotes? >>> >>> >>> And the spousal value cannot be understated. >>> >>> --------------------------- >>> Brian Weeden >>> Technical Advisor >>> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> >>> Montreal Office >>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada >>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Anthony Q. Martin > <amar...@charter.net>wrote: >>>> None of these reasons impacts me in the least little bit. It took all > of >>>> 30 minutes to set my Harmony One up for control my stuff and free me > from >>>> constant remote hell. If I never need something in particular not on the >>>> user-community provided menus I can grab the device remote. I have > plenty >>>> of better things to do than spent my time fiddling with codes and > macros. >>>> >>>> maccrawj wrote: >>>> >>>>> Suggestion: Run away from Harmony! >>>>> >>>>> When Logitech bought them out they removed all advanced direct access > to >>>>> the remotes programming code. End result is you are at their mercy when > it >>>>> comes to getting codes that don't exist in their "community support" >>>>> database (read: added by other endlusers by ir learning & interpreted > by >>>>> logitech) add short of ir learning or calling TS to add a pronto code. >>>>> >>>>> Top ten reasons why Harmony sucks: >>>>> >>>>> 10. Not all codes in DB & many don't match their labeled function. >>>>> >>>>> 9. No user exposed Pronto Code support, so Code not in DB & no original >>>>> remote = frakked, call TS beg them to add by PC. >>>>> >>>>> 8. Painstaking PITA "activity based" system vs. simple devices & > macros. >>>>> 7. No real macro support. >>>>> >>>>> 6. Slow as molasses doing batches of commands that starting/stopping >>>>> "activities" issue. >>>>> >>>>> 5. *one* **online** copy of configured remote, no revisions or backups. >>>>> >>>>> 4. Programming "client" is a disguised Gecko web browser, leading to >>>>> various issues: 5min "idle" timeout w/o warning, 1990's era HTML >>>>> forms/buttons vs. Web 2.0, poor process flow, tedious button/device >>>>> management, internet needed to program, etc... >>>>> >>>>> 3. Arbitrary limitations on what buttons can be assigned device > functions >>>>> like sound + buttons only being usable for display & audio device, not > the >>>>> device serving them the signal; this despite being able to assign those >>>>> under device mode setup which you loose in activity mode. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Zero interest on Logitech's part to address valid user issues with >>>>> interface, function, and ability to offline program; A forum base of >>>>> volunteer kool-aid drinkers with their finger poised on the ban button > for >>>>> dissenters. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Expensive "rental" since the programming software is 100% on their > web >>>>> server so they can switch to something new when it suits them leaving >>>>> support in the dust like they did mkb+mice with itouch/mouseware. >>>>> >>>>> Sound angry? You bet, go read the forums before you drink the kool-aid! >>>>> JP1 universals still offer way more flexibility & direct access to > solutions >>>>> at a lower price point with open source programming software & strong >>>>> community support. For that matter real Pronto remotes are light years >>>>> ahead & in same price range as fancy Harmony's. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To be fair I have the Costco marketed low-end 6xx model, about $50 that > I >>>>> am still struggling to like mostly because it has a nice programmable 6 >>>>> button LCD that my JP1 remote lacks. If the offline programming > capable >>>>> hacked open source softwares ever mature or Logitech wakes up, then I'd >>>>> recommend it with slight reservation as it still can't have it's > firmware >>>>> functionality end-user extended like JP1's can. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for long post but Logitech irks me on many levels! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bobby Heid wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm looking at getting a universal remote. What do you all like in > the >>>>>> way >>>>>> of remotes? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I was looking at the Logitech Harmony SST 659, 690, and 880 models. > Any >>>>>> suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >
