Because it doesn't mean as much on a phone. Jobs is busy showing off the nytimes, he goes to cbs's website... And no lead story, just a blue box with "no flash" plugin.
The iphone was a web ready phone. Lower expectations. People see ipad and think 'wow, I'll do facebook, youtube, hulu". Except youtube is dead (so they need the java conversion) and hulu is a nogo. Game apps on facebook? No way So you get an ipod touch (it won't make calls so not an iphone, and no camera either, so a loss there) that can't really fit into the tablet market. I'm just wondering outside of super apple fans, what's the major lure here? Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:05:45 To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? I don't notice lack of flash support in the 2+ years I've used my iPhone. --------------------------- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:59 PM, <tmse...@rlrnews.com> wrote: > The fact that it won't support flash is a killer. > Sent via BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com> > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 19:40:04 > To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? > > Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And > even the US deal is not likely to last forever. > > --------------------------- > Brian Weeden > Technical Advisor > Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > +1 (202) 683-8534 US > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin <amar...@charter.net > >wrote: > > > i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt > the > > Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes > > along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I > > would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this > thing. > > To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or > a > > Kindle. > > > > > > On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: > > > >> Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are > some > >> special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and > reading > >> books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. > >> > >> But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking > at > >> it. > >> > >> --------------------------- > >> Brian Weeden > >> Technical Advisor > >> Secure World Foundation<http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > >> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > >> +1 (202) 683-8534 US > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martin<amar...@charter.net > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? > >>> > >>> > >>> On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Jailbreak FTW. > >>>> > >>>> Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------- > >>>> Brian Weeden > >>>> Technical Advisor > >>>> Secure World Foundation<http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > >>>> > >>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > >>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitz<se...@bsd-unix.net> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked > >>>>> down > >>>>> / GAY. > >>>>> (And I'm an Apple fan boy). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC > >>>>>> with > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> a different > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we > go > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> down this path > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> hence no matter how good, it must die. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be > >>>>>> an > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> ION based > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> netbook. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can > already > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> guess > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> vent it > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> evaluations > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out > there > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> now, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> or that people expect to come out in the next few months. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> PC-type of > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> iPad > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye > on > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> particular one coming out soon? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> BINO > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Bryan G. Seitz > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: > 01/27/10 > >>>> 14:36:00 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 > >> 14:36:00 > >> > >> > >> > > >
