I guess it depends. I don't own a kindle, a family member does. Key difference: I can sit outside and read a kindle. Try to read an iphone out in the sun. You can't. It might as well be a rock.
So, as a book, its a good curl on the couch kind of book. But worthless outside. As a tablet pc, it can't print, export documents, has no onboard usb or camera. It doesn't support flash and has a locked app environment. The cheapest kindle is 250. The cheapest ipad is $500. The cheapest kindle has 3g. The cheapest ipad doesn't. So, kind of geared differently. Sent via BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Bino Gopal" <binogo...@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:01:03 To: <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Well I got a Kindle as an Xmas gift from my GF and used it for a few days but didn't really like it and she sent it back to Amazon, and I'm glad she did now b/c the Kindle just doesn't do enough for me... An iPad or similar device that can do full web-browsing along with reading ebooks and other stuff (like BrianW) states makes a Kindle or similar single-use devices completely obsolete, IMHO... BINO -----Original Message----- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:40 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] The iPad vs the competition? Free data on the Kindle is only true in the US, not internationally. And even the US deal is not likely to last forever. --------------------------- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Anthony Q. Martin <amar...@charter.net>wrote: > i've never felt even slightly compelled to get an iTouch, but have felt the > Kindle would be interesting if it were in color. Now the iPad comes > along...it is big enough to actually be useful for extended use...and I > would really enjoy reading graphic novels (ie, comic books) on this thing. > To me, the size and the color really make the difference vs an iTouch or a > Kindle. > > > On 1/27/2010 7:16 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: > >> Mostly but there are some differences. No camera or mic. There are some >> special added navigation techniques and menus for web browsing and reading >> books which are different from the iPhone/Touch. >> >> But yeah, a bit iTouch with a data connection is a rough way of looking at >> it. >> >> --------------------------- >> Brian Weeden >> Technical Advisor >> Secure World Foundation<http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> >> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada >> +1 (202) 683-8534 US >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Anthony Q. Martin<amar...@charter.net >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Isn't it just a bigger iPhone Touch? >>> >>> >>> On 1/27/2010 6:58 PM, Brian Weeden wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Jailbreak FTW. >>>> >>>> Makes my iPhone twice as useful as before. >>>> >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Brian Weeden >>>> Technical Advisor >>>> Secure World Foundation<http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> >>>> >>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada >>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Bryan Seitz<se...@bsd-unix.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Except it's not a PC, it has the stupid App store, and will be locked >>>>> down >>>>> / GAY. >>>>> (And I'm an Apple fan boy). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 03:36:00PM -0800, maccrawj wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> No rant, simple statement that no matter how good it just another PC >>>>>> with >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> a different >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> OS on it. Sad thing is we revert to 1984 pre-clone revolution if we go >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> down this path >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> hence no matter how good, it must die. >>>>>> >>>>>> That said Tablets interest me though my next portable likely will be >>>>>> an >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ION based >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> netbook. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/27/2010 1:25 PM, Bino Gopal wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So I'll bring it up: what do people think of the iPad? I can already >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> guess >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> at the level of disinterest and disdain on this list (so no need to >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> vent it >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> here in response), so what I'm more looking for is more factual >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> evaluations >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> of the features and how it compares to equivalent solutions out there >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> now, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> or that people expect to come out in the next few months. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a T61 but it's getting old and would like to get a tablet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> PC-type of >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> device, and am expecting that the upcoming Win7 tablets should blow >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> out of the water in price and features right? Anyone got their eye on >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> particular one coming out soon? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> BINO >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Bryan G. Seitz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 >>>> 14:36:00 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2650 - Release Date: 01/27/10 >> 14:36:00 >> >> >> >