Hard disagree on userbenchmark, their score weighting has a pro-intel bias that's basically legendary to the point that they cannot be taken remotely seriously.
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 22:56, Brian Weeden <brian.wee...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would wait if at all possible. Part of the reason your cost estimate is > going so high is that good video cards are still scarce as heck (combo of > mining, chip shortages, supply chain snafus, and just overall huge demand). > > It might actually be cheaper to buy a pre-made system than trying to find a > separate video card yourself. > > But as always, this is a great site for comparing various specs: > https://www.userbenchmark.com > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:39 PM Greg Sevart <ad...@xfury.net> wrote: > > > Re: #2 - Yes, Alder Lake (12th gen) is definitely worth $200 more. I'm > > even going to be upgrading from my Zen3 5950X to a 12900K. However, the > > hybrid architecture is tripping up DRM for some games, so validate your > > titles before executing. You can probably assume anything newish either > > will work OOB or will be patched though. > > > > AMD is also going to be adopting a hybrid architecture with Zen 5. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hardware <hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com> On Behalf Of > > Bino Gopal > > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:22 PM > > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: [H] New gaming PC specs/recommendation for Bino? > > > > Hey guys, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving! > > > > I wanted to get a new desktop gaming PC-I decided to split the laptop and > > gaming, so I got an LG Gram 17" laptop for work/mobility (still need the > > screen size and resolution for emails and browsing-but I love how light > it > > is!) so now I want to build a decent gaming system that will last me a > > while... > > > > I wanted to spend like $2500 but the specs I'm coming up with for what > > seem like I decent system are coming out to more like $4k and I'm > wondering > > if I really need to spend that much... > > > > I used xoticpc.com 4 years ago to buy my MSI GS73VR gaming laptop (that > > is still going strong and it's what I'm writing this email on-well, after > > lots of repairs at the local MSI repair shop, heh) and I spent about $3k > on > > it in March 2017, and that was the last computer I'd bought until I got > the > > Gram for $900 last month at Costco, so it's served me well. > > > > So here's the configs I came up with with the guy at xoticpc > > > > 12th gen: > > > https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torrent-z690-ddr5?conf=525726 > > 11th > > < > https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torrent-z690-ddr5?conf=52572611th > > > > gen: > > > https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torrent-z490-z590?conf=525722 > > > > They're basically the same system, using this Fractal Torrent glass case > > as the base: > > > https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-torrent-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352148 > > > > which they call the GX18 Torrent model on the xoticpc site. I upgraded > > both systems with a GTX 3080, i7, MSI Carbon MBs, ASUS Thor 850W PS, 32GB > > Corsair RAM in 2x16, a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro Gen 4 (no other SSDs/HDs), > kept > > the integrated sound, USB wireless dongle (no cost), upgraded the thermal > > paste, kept the AIO cooling loop, and upgraded to Win 10 Pro 64-bit. > > > > The difference b/w the two configs is the newer gen chipset/MB, CPU and > > faster RAM: Z690 vs Z590, 12th vs 11th gen Intel CPU, 5.2k vs 3.6k MHz > > RAM-and $200 more for the 12th gen stuff... > > > > > > So the main questions are: > > 1) Did I basically spec things out right for gaming and is this what > > a new gaming system should cost about now given parts shortages and GPU > > prices (damn, they're expensive!)? Are there any major things any of you > > would change/recommend? > > 2) If I stay with this config, is the extra $200 worth it to go from > > 11th gen to 12th gen and the new MB and smaller CPU die size worth it for > > future-proofing and upgrading? > > 3) Anything that I missed here? Any recs on better parts? Better > > place to buy from? I was going to get another MSI system but the tech > > (Eric F, same guy I spoke to over 4 years ago, which is cool) said that > MSI > > generally uses the minimum spec parts and isn't as customizable and that > > building with xoticpc you can select better stuff (like the ASUS Thor PS, > > etc) so I went with the xoticpc custom build as I saw that to be the > case... > > > > > > Any thoughts/help/feedback much appreciated! Cheers all! > > > > BINO > > > > > > > > -- > > > --------- > Brian >
