It (pre-built) is about the only way you can get DDR5 right now, too. DIMMs are OOS everywhere and I've had suppliers say there's no ETA on restock. I was lucky to grab a couple 8GB sticks when I got the Z690 board and 12900K, but I'll have to wait for more before I can actually switch out my main machine - 16GB isn't enough, and I won't pay scalper prices.
-----Original Message----- From: Hardware <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [H] New gaming PC specs/recommendation for Bino? I would wait if at all possible. Part of the reason your cost estimate is going so high is that good video cards are still scarce as heck (combo of mining, chip shortages, supply chain snafus, and just overall huge demand). It might actually be cheaper to buy a pre-made system than trying to find a separate video card yourself. But as always, this is a great site for comparing various specs: https://www.userbenchmark.com On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:39 PM Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote: > Re: #2 - Yes, Alder Lake (12th gen) is definitely worth $200 more. I'm > even going to be upgrading from my Zen3 5950X to a 12900K. However, > the hybrid architecture is tripping up DRM for some games, so validate > your titles before executing. You can probably assume anything newish > either will work OOB or will be patched though. > > AMD is also going to be adopting a hybrid architecture with Zen 5. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hardware <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Bino Gopal > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [H] New gaming PC specs/recommendation for Bino? > > Hey guys, hope you all had a good Thanksgiving! > > I wanted to get a new desktop gaming PC-I decided to split the laptop > and gaming, so I got an LG Gram 17" laptop for work/mobility (still > need the screen size and resolution for emails and browsing-but I love > how light it > is!) so now I want to build a decent gaming system that will last me a > while... > > I wanted to spend like $2500 but the specs I'm coming up with for what > seem like I decent system are coming out to more like $4k and I'm > wondering if I really need to spend that much... > > I used xoticpc.com 4 years ago to buy my MSI GS73VR gaming laptop > (that is still going strong and it's what I'm writing this email > on-well, after lots of repairs at the local MSI repair shop, heh) and > I spent about $3k on it in March 2017, and that was the last computer > I'd bought until I got the Gram for $900 last month at Costco, so it's served > me well. > > So here's the configs I came up with with the guy at xoticpc > > 12th gen: > https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torre > nt-z690-ddr5?conf=525726 > 11th > <https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torr > ent-z690-ddr5?conf=52572611th> > gen: > https://xoticpc.com/collections/gx18-torrent/products/xotic-gx18-torre > nt-z490-z590?conf=525722 > > They're basically the same system, using this Fractal Torrent glass > case as the base: > https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-torrent-atx-mid-tower/p/N8 > 2E16811352148 > > which they call the GX18 Torrent model on the xoticpc site. I > upgraded both systems with a GTX 3080, i7, MSI Carbon MBs, ASUS Thor > 850W PS, 32GB Corsair RAM in 2x16, a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro Gen 4 (no > other SSDs/HDs), kept the integrated sound, USB wireless dongle (no > cost), upgraded the thermal paste, kept the AIO cooling loop, and upgraded to > Win 10 Pro 64-bit. > > The difference b/w the two configs is the newer gen chipset/MB, CPU > and faster RAM: Z690 vs Z590, 12th vs 11th gen Intel CPU, 5.2k vs 3.6k > MHz RAM-and $200 more for the 12th gen stuff... > > > So the main questions are: > 1) Did I basically spec things out right for gaming and is this what > a new gaming system should cost about now given parts shortages and > GPU prices (damn, they're expensive!)? Are there any major things any > of you would change/recommend? > 2) If I stay with this config, is the extra $200 worth it to go from > 11th gen to 12th gen and the new MB and smaller CPU die size worth it > for future-proofing and upgrading? > 3) Anything that I missed here? Any recs on better parts? Better > place to buy from? I was going to get another MSI system but the tech > (Eric F, same guy I spoke to over 4 years ago, which is cool) said > that MSI generally uses the minimum spec parts and isn't as > customizable and that building with xoticpc you can select better > stuff (like the ASUS Thor PS, > etc) so I went with the xoticpc custom build as I saw that to be the case... > > > Any thoughts/help/feedback much appreciated! Cheers all! > > BINO > > > > -- --------- Brian
