I don't mind it being both a hardware/geek club and a social club.  Frankly,
I've been on this list long enough to consider many of you my friends (yes,
that includes you, Duncan) even though I've never really met anyone in RL.

And I'm just bummed that I couldn't make it to DC for the Fear/Sanity
Rally.  I've been watching the live feed all afternoon and it's been pretty
amazing.

---------------------------
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, DSinc <[email protected]> wrote:

> Brian/ScoobyDo,
> Fine. Barbs accepted. I will dedicate 2 of my XPpro clients and spin up
> MSSE for a test. My current ESET license runs thru 12/12, so this may remain
> my primary Baddie Catcher.
> Personally, I consider HWG a "social club" of sorts. I was taught that any
> collection of humans that come together via a common interest (HW) defines
> as a social club. Personally, opinions and biases are always welcome here.
> Best,
> Duncan
>
>
>
> On 10/30/2010 13:26, Scoobydo wrote:
>
>> Your job is very cool Brian, I've been a space enthusiast since we landed
>> on the Moon. I've been reading Science Fiction since age 16 and have always
>> been excited about future advancements. Computers are my hobby and I enjoy
>> reading articles on the latest new hardware. This is the Hardware Group is
>> it not? I think there are people here who have forgotten that and may think
>> that it's more of a social club. LOL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 30 Oct 2010 10:50:27 -0500, Brian Weeden <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  My point was that the comments against using MSSE didn't appear to be
>>> coming
>>> from anyone who has actually used it.
>>>
>>> If someone has used it and had a bad experience or didn't like it, then
>>> please by all means share that with the group.  That is valid data that
>>> should be taken into consideration when making the decision about whether
>>> or
>>> not to use the product.
>>>
>>> And no, I'm not paid by Microsoft or any other tech company.  I actually
>>> work in the space sector, and more specifically on national and
>>> international policy for space security and sustainability.  Tech is
>>> simply
>>> a hobby of mine, but one I take seriously (like many on this list).
>>>
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Brian Weeden
>>> Technical Advisor
>>> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:42 PM, DSinc <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Brian,
>>>> Why your point about bias? Are you paid by Microsoft? Is everyone on
>>>> this
>>>> List supposed to tow some unknown commercial line? I read no, "Bad
>>>> Microsoft!"  I did read individual choices, and, yes personal opinions.
>>>> Fair
>>>> Dinkum! I enjoy the free exchange of opinions here.
>>>> Perhaps it is different for me. I am retired after some 35 years of
>>>> being
>>>> paid to use many things Microsoft. I use Microsoft ATM; just a bit
>>>> behind
>>>> the curve.......... :)
>>>> Duncan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/29/2010 20:06, Brian Weeden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  There seems to be a lot of anti-MS bias on here that isn't based on any
>>>>> real
>>>>> data other than opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because it is made by Microsoft does not mean MSSE is bad.  It is
>>>>> very
>>>>> lightweight, does not crash, and does the best job of removing malware
>>>>> that
>>>>> I have seen.  And it is free.  I never used AV until I started using it
>>>>> because I was turned off by the crappy choices and I love it.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> Brian Weeden
>>>>> Technical Advisor
>>>>> Secure World Foundation<http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
>>>>> +1 (202) 683-8534 US
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:01 PM,<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  No.   Microsoft Security Essentials is still a local install.
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Iightweight
>>>>>> download.   Easy to access offline updates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/securityessentials
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: FORC5<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:53:26
>>>>>> To:<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [H] Best Antivirus Suite
>>>>>>
>>>>>> isn't that CLOUD based ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> turns me off for some reason.
>>>>>> fp
>>>>>> At 03:20 PM 10/29/2010, [email protected] Poked the stick with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Agreed.
>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>> From: Winterlight
>>>>>>> Sender: [email protected]
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> ReplyTo: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [H] Best Antivirus Suite
>>>>>>> Sent: Oct 29, 2010 5:08 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Microsoft Security Essentials = free and unobtusive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 02:51 PM 10/29/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It's that time again where I will soon need to get a new AV suite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's the consensus?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking for 3 Computer protection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Had McAfee before, was okay, caught virii, but slowed system down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zulfiqar Naushad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  signature database 5576 (20101029) __________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.eset.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> Tallyho ! ]:8)
>>>>>> Taglines below !
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Drive defensively, buy yourself a tank.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
>>

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