Yep Agreed. -- dims
On 5/12/05, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (harmony specific - back to this list only) > > Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > >Ben, > > > >Once we get past that problem, we have to get an ok for provining a > >single bundle. I think 2 downloads to get a working JVM (say on M$ > >platform) is to say it mildly...crazy. > > > > > While it is great to see everyone continue to work through the licensing > issues, and that should definitely continue, I don't see the "2 > downloads" as a big issue until there is the other 1 download :) > > I believe there will be a fair bit of time to sort out those license > issues, and decide whether to use classpath, use something else, or > write it from scratch/donation between now and when this actually > becomes important. > > As I mentioned on IRC the other day, early adopters are not going to > find it a big deal to download a class library separately, and more than > likely they already have rt.jar on their system and can (as I understand > it) quite legally drop that in on their machine to test out the ApacheVM > or whatever it happens to be. I did it the other day with Kaffe when > classpath didn't compile on cygwin. That I can see happening - the > converse, not so. > > I realise its kind of early in the life of the project in the wild, but > I think it would be important for there to be some focus on getting > something out sooner, and it seems obvious to me that most of the > interest here is on VM related work so far. To some extent I guess this > is because there isn't a lot of room to innovate in the class libraries, > but I think the point is still valid. > > I defnitely think 2 downloads would suck for a final product - but > that's down the track a ways. I understand its going to need a lot of > leg work and will take time, it just (to me) seems like there is a bit > of panic surrounding getting it resolved, where I think the community > would be better off getting focused and working on planning the VM side > of things. > > My $A0.02 :) > > Cheers, > Brett > -- Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/