I'm going to harvest this info for the website... good stuff... Mark Hindess wrote: > On 2 June 2006 at 19:54, "Vladimir Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This post reminded me about that some times ago was a little discussion >> about 'application testing' and that it will be good to define list of >> application that should run over harmony to check implemented functionality >> and define more critical areas to implement and bugs to fix. >> >> May be it is a time to define this set to set up some goal - without dates, >> but in terms of enabled applications for people to start trying enabling >> *these certain* well-known applications on HY? > > Funny you should mention this. I've just added an entry to the wiki > about testing I've done on some of the Apache Commons projects: > > http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/Apache_Commons > > Initially I decided what packages to look at by finding the packages > (in Debian) that the most other packages depended on. So many of > them were Apache Commons packages that I then decided to start with > those. If no one beats me to it, I'll be going back to the debian > most-depended-upon-packages list when I finish the Commons packages. > > Incidentally if anyone wants to investigate any of the Commons packages > perhaps you could mark up the wiki page to say you are looking at it. > (I will do the same.) > >> I would propose to start with Geronimo. > > Someone looked at this a while ago I think[0], there is a link from: > > http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/ClassLibrary > > My experience with the Apache Commons projects (and the extensive tests > they provide) is that this is a very good way to find real bugs that > will affect real applications. (And it's often easier to track them > down in simple(r) test case than in real applications.) > > Regards, > Mark. > > [0] Amusingly after writing this I checked and it turns out that someone > was me! ;-) > >> On 6/2/06, Mark Hindess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On 2 June 2006 at 5:32, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Erik Axel Nielsen wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure if I should post this under testing, but here goes. >>>>> >>>>> Next spring I will be TA/organizer of "Object oriented programming" at >>>>> my university. This course is followed by approximately 500 students. >>> To >>>>> make this course a little more interesting for the students the last >>>>> assignment involves making a game. The students do this in groups >>> making >>>>> ~100 different games. If anyone wants to see the games for this year >>> go >>>>> to [1]. The page is in Norwegian but it should be possible to >>> understand >>>>> enough to download the jars anyway. The quality varies a LOT but 207, >>>>> 109 and 804 are good at least. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, what I wanted to say is that being students, and being 500 >>> they >>>>> cover a big part of Swing/Java 2D and even Java 3D. Especially they >>> use >>>>> things the way it wasn't meant to be used. As long as it works it's OK >>>>> with them. If Harmony has managed to make an easy download that they >>> can >>>>> try their game on I think it would be a nice way to check how >>> compliant >>>>> Harmony is with RI. >>>> By next spring? I'm hoping to have this download by next *week* (ok, >>>> two weeks...) >>>> >>>> We'll definitely have this for them. I'm hoping by next spring, we'll >>>> be far enough along you can ask your students to just *do* their project >>>> on Harmony :) >>>> >>>>> This is not testing per se, but more like a good >>>>> quality check I think. With a little bit of cooperation with the >>>>> professors it could even be an optional part of the assignment. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone with thoughts about this? >>>> I think this is great, as this is what we want to do - drive people to >>>> test their programs on Harmony, because I think this is an excellent and >>>> necessary addition to the formal project testing and TCK testing >>>> activities... >>>> >>>> BTW, what license are these programs under? I'd like to have a few >>>> graphical demos in our JDK just like Sun does :) and it would be cool to >>>> use some of these if those students are interested in contributing them, >>>> are able to contributing them and even interested in participating >>> here... >>> >>> Well, some of them seem to contain images/sounds that might not be >>> original works of the game authors. >>> >>> But it's an interesting thought. We should probably wait until we have >>> javax.sound? Since most of the games fail because of these missing >>> packages. The others I tried failed with: >>> >>> java.lang.RuntimeException: Method is not implemented >>> at java.awt.Window.createBufferStrategy(Window.java:266) >>> >>> and: >>> >>> Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError : java/lang/System.nanoTime()J >>> >>> However, a little further down the line perhaps we should have a >>> competition with the best games becoming the official demos for Harmony? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mark - enjoying having an excuse to play a few games >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> ------=_Part_4998_9047751.1149252888918-- > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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