Does it mean that we are revisiting our agreement on "more helpful error messages"? [1,2]
Should we now roll back for example Harmony-250? Thanks, Mikhail [1] http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/agreements.html [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200603.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006/7/19, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Mikhail Loenko wrote: > I think all that means that we will accept patches that fix the messages > and > toStrings Sure, if people want to spend their time doing that then of course we will be grateful. Regards, Tim > 2006/7/17, Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >> Alexey Petrenko wrote: >> > I do not think that we really need to rewrite all the toString >> messages. >> > I suggest to update them as needed. For example if somebody will >> > discover that some important application depends on it... >> >> The problem with that approach is that you are letting your users find >> problems that you actually know are there. >> >> As I said in another note, I don't think we should drop everything to do >> this, but we *should* agree to do it lazily, track what has been fixed, >> and offer it as something that new people who want to get engaged in the >> project can do as well. >> >> geir >> >> > >> > SY, Alexey >> > >> > 2006/7/17, Richard Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> Good news! So we can output the same message if possible. Not sure >> >> whether we need to update all of us toStrings? Any comments? >> >> >> >> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: >> >> > Sun, via Graham Hamilton (my favorite Sun Fellow), has stated the >> >> > following : >> >> > >> >> > Sun has no objections to Harmony (or other TCK-compliant Java SE >> >> > implementations) using the same exception messages and toString >> >> > formats as the Sun implementation of Java SE. >> >> > >> >> > Further, as a personal comment, he added : >> >> > >> >> > Keep in mind that since these messages and formats are not >> part of >> >> > the Java SE specifications, Sun may occasionally change the >> >> messages >> >> > and formats it uses. We tend to be cautious in doing that, >> so as >> >> > not to impact applications, but it isn't ruled out. >> >> > >> >> > Also, it should be noted that in the APIs where Doug Lea or Josh >> Bloch >> >> > had a major influence, there's a good change that the toString() >> format >> >> > *is* defined in the spec. For example, see HashMap (via >> AbstractMap). >> >> > The point is that while it hasn't been done consistently >> throughout the >> >> > entire API, it's well understood by some that people depend on these >> >> > things, and one should be careful about changing them. >> >> > >> >> > geir >> >> > >> >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Richard Liang >> >> China Software Development Lab, IBM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Tim Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Java technology centre, UK. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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