On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: > Egor Pasko wrote: > > On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: > >> Egor Pasko wrote: > >>> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote: > >>>> Hello again, > >>>> > >>>> I have had a closer look at the "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library > >>>> Code with Eclipse" page, and I have noticed that the "Configuring > >>>> Eclipse" > >>>> and "Develop and Test Code" sections are quite class-library specific. > >>>> Would it be better to leave those sections as they are and add a > >>>> "Developing > >>>> DRLVM with Eclipse" section on the same page? > >>> To the moment I am not aware of anybody who would use Eclipse for > >>> DRLVM development. So, it's too early to add a page like this. > >> This will ensure that no one does then - if it's simple to add, lets > >> add it... > > Does it help anybody? I see no point in doing redundant work even if > > it is small. > > Why is it redundant?
Nobody uses, nobody reads -> redundant. Am I missing something? :) > > Who would give Eclipse a try just to write a redundant doc? I wrote a > > GDB howto because I use it and have some helpful things to say. I > > would have been glad to know if someone has similar experience with > > Eclipse+DRLVM. > > > >> geir > >> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Sian > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 07/11/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> Sian, > >>>>> Sorry for delay in response. > >>>>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate any > >>>>> work > >>>>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything > >>>>> specific >I can do... > >>>>> Thanks for your desire to help! > >>>>> Well, let's work at the page "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library > >>>>> Code with Eclipse" > >>>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/dev_ecli > >>>>> pse.html] first, if you do not mind. > >>>>> AFAIK the majority of items on the page can equally apply to DRLVM and > >>>>> classlib. IMHO would be great to edit the page to remove unnecessary > >>>>> focus on classlib, to make the page equally relevant for vm developers. > >>>>> To my mind, the introductory sections should be removed, as they are > >>>>> about generalities that do not always relate to the header of the page. > >>>>> Could you please take a close look at the page and create the patch to > >>>>> improve the content and to remove all classlib-specific info? You can > >>>>> use Harmony-2009 for it. It would be a great impact into development of > >>>>> the site documentation for sure! If you need my help, just let me know. > >>>>> The second idea is to move the page up, not to store it in > >>>>> subcomponents/classlib. To make it easily accessible, we can store it in > >>>>> top xdocs folder and link to the page from documentation.html, quick > >>>>> helps and other build-development web pages. > >>>>> If you do not have any objections, I can create a patch with the > >>>>> necessary links. > >>>>> What do you think? > >>>>> > >>>>> Best regards, > >>>>> Sveta > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Sian January [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:23 PM > >>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Sveta, > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks for all your work on this. I think you're right about the > >>>>> Eclipse > >>>>> information - I think most of it is fairly generic and it would be good > >>>>> to > >>>>> have it in the "Project Documentation" section. I believe the new > >>>>> details > >>>>> about the ecj jar and the PDE-related settings are classlib-specific (- > >>>>> Dpde.jreProfile=none etc), but that could probably be mentioned in the > >>>>> document. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd like to help with documentation but I don't want to duplicate any > >>>>> work > >>>>> that you are in the middle of, so let me know if there's anything > >>>>> specific I > >>>>> can do, or if you're nearly finished then I can leave this area to you > >>>>> and > >>>>> get involved in the future. > >>>>> > >>>>> Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>> Sian > >>>>> > >>>>> On 31/10/06, Konovalova, Svetlana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>>> Sian, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you so much for your positive feedback and appreciating the > >>>>> page. > >>>>>> This page is only related to classlib. But IMHO many of the things are > >>>>>> pretty generic, and with minimal edits can be fit > >>>>>> for VM as well. I suggest that we move this doc up to make it more > >>>>>> visible and edit it so as to apply to the whole project, rather than > >>>>> to > >>>>>> classlib only. To my mind, the "Project Documentation" section is a > >>>>> good > >>>>>> place > >>>>>> for this doc > >>>>>> > >>>>> [http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/documentation/documentation.html]. > >>>>>> How about that? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As for the "GS with DRLVM" doc, it needs an update, and can be > >>>>> abridged > >>>>>> to reduce purely eclipse-oriented content. We can remove unnecessary > >>>>>> screenshots as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Feel free to take an active part in updating the doc, if you have time > >>>>>> and desire :) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>> Sveta > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: Sian January [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:14 PM > >>>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Sveta, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for doing that - I have had a look through your patch and it > >>>>>> looks > >>>>>> really good. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Your suggestions for changes to the DRLVM document look good too. I > >>>>>> couldn't really find any good links for getting started with Java > >>>>>> programming in Eclipse on their website, the only thing that came > >>>>> close > >>>>>> was > >>>>>> this - http://help.eclipse.org/help32/index.jsp, which has some > >>>>> getting > >>>>>> started tutorials within the page. There might be some better > >>>>> articles > >>>>>> out > >>>>>> there on other sites though, or we could just direct people to the > >>>>> help > >>>>>> system or 'cheat sheets' within their Eclipse installation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sian > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Sian January > >>>> > >>>> IBM Java Technology Centre, UK > > > -- Egor Pasko
