On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Stephen Tetley <stephen.tet...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Evan > > Ha, though miles away from being ready for public consumption my own > "tower of DSLs" built over Csound gained symbolic notes, chords, > trills and "Solo Parts" this week. Hopefully arpeggios, tremolos and > more should follow soon.
I assume this is the "Lirio" program you mentioned a while back? At the time I recall you were mostly programmatically generating lilypond scores, but I suppose even so you still need a way to describe the higher level structures. I have found that even with relatively simple things like trills, tremolo, grace notes, and vibrato, there are many variants and controls, not just to do with speed and articulation but also how they interact with legato, which itself is a nontrivial instrument-dependent topic. This all goes away in staff notation because you can rely on the performer to supply it. But the parameters are very interesting to play with, e.g. by tweaking the interpretation of legato slurs you change the entire feel of a piece, in a subtle but very recognizable way. By the way, back then you mentioned something I meant to respond to: > where chord transformations can be easily encoded[1] and a nice model > of gamelan melodies in Michael Tenzer's book "Gamelan Gong Keybar". I was curious about that, because I too have that book. I remember getting a little lost in that section, but also wondering what the practical purpose of all this reduction to "normal forms" was. Perhaps you have come up with such a practical purpose, though I still don't fully understand it :) I've started to implement a few concepts from Balinese music, but mostly restricted to concrete things like performance techniques, idiomatic derivation (e.g. reyong kilitan), and "arrival" oriented rhythm, where notes are written at the end of their duration rather than the beginning. > More concretely Roger Dannenberg (Score), Stephen Travis Pope (Smoke) > and Paul Hudak, of course, have made score languages with tangible > musical objects like chords, clusters, drum rolls etc. I'm familiar with Dannenberg's work on nyquist, but was unable to find any references to Score, and it's a generic name and hard to search for. I found a single short paper on Smoke, which I'm reading, but no musical examples. And haskore of course I'm familiar with. > Regarding your comment in the other thread Evan, David Seidel (aka > Mystery Bear) has made music with Csound that crossed over well enough > from "computer music" to feature on Kyle Gann's Postclassic radio when > it was running. Do you have any recommendations? I found some on his site, http://mysterybear.net/, but it was all very much in the "abstract sound design" genre, at least by my judgement. _______________________________________________ haskell-art mailing list haskell-art@lurk.org http://lists.lurk.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-art
