On 2008-01-07, at 18:53, <dj3va...@eskimo.com> <dj3va...@eskimo.com>
wrote:
Somebody claiming to be Peter da Silva wrote:
I think the Smalltalk environment is a chunk of hate that
distracts people from the sweet language underneath it,
I can say with confidence that the "Interact with existing tools?
Why the hell would you want to do THAT?" attitude that seems to
prevail in the Smalltalk community has generated far more software
hate than a custom environment ever could on its own.
I think we're referring to the same phenomenon. Or two aspects of the
same phenomenon. You get the same attitude to a greater or lesser
extent in any closed environment, whether it's a language/UI like
Smalltalk, OS/file system like classic Mac OS, or any "My Favorate
Toy (gensym)". You even get it in open environments, that's why so
much code out there has to get thoroughly cleaned to get the scent of
gcc off it. Smalltalk just happened to have the misfortune of being
too much better than everything before it that it fossilized within
no more than a couple of years, sucked a bunch of bright minds into
it, and vanished into its own event horizon.