Logging into http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012 and trying
to post this, I'm seeing "Immutable Page" instead of an edit link.

Is missing this a big deal? I'm wondering if we should ask to add this
late, or submit next month?

--travis



On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Alan Gates <[email protected]> wrote:
> lgtm.
>
> Alan.
>
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Travis Crawford wrote:
>
>> New updated version:
>>
>> Changes:
>> * List committer count as 9 (was 10)
>> * List committer orgs as 3 (was 4)
>>
>>
>> """
>> HCatalog is a table and storage management service for data created
>> using Apache Hadoop. HCatalog entered Apache incubator in March 2011.
>>
>> What has the project accomplished since the last report?
>>
>> * Released version 0.4
>> * Voted in one new committer
>> * Received patches from 19 people
>>
>> In March 2012, HCatalog was identified as having low diversity. With
>> the addition of the new committer there are now 9 committers from 3
>> organizations. Additionally, we have received patches from 19 unique
>> people (including committers) some of which are outside the committer
>> organizations. We believe the low diversity issue has either been
>> addressed, or good progress has been made towards addressing the
>> issue.
>>
>> What are the top 2-3 things to resolve before graduation?
>>
>> * Grow the user community. There has been progress in this area with
>> new users asking questions on the mailing list, receiving patches from
>> an increasing number of contributors, and work towards publishing
>> pre-built artifacts in the Apache repository. We need to continue in
>> this positive direction.
>> * Resolve a review process issue that affects our ability to develop
>> new features. Time between receiving patches and committing has
>> increased to problematic levels, often causing code rot and
>> contributors extra work to rebase patches against trunk.
>>
>> At this time we feel confident in our ability to make progress toward
>> resolving these issues.
>> """
>>
>> --travis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Alan Gates <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Paul from Facebook hasn't contributed much lately, hence my count of active 
>>> committers from three entities.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Travis Crawford wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Alan Gates <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> In general looks good.  A few comments inline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Travis Crawford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a starting point for our status update. Please let me know if
>>>>>> this looks good, or you'd like to make any edits. Its entirely likely
>>>>>> I missed some noteworthy accomplishment or we should highlight
>>>>>> different graduation-related issues, so please speak up if you see
>>>>>> something I missed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> """
>>>>>> HCatalog is a table and storage management service for data created
>>>>>> using Apache Hadoop. HCatalog entered Apache incubator in March 2011.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What has the project accomplished since the last report?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Released version 0.4
>>>>>> * Voted in one new committer
>>>>>> * Received patches from 19 people
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the top 2-3 things to resolve before graduation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Grow the user and developer communities. There has been progress in
>>>>>> this area with new users asking questions on the mailing list,
>>>>>> receiving patches from an increasing number of contributors, adding a
>>>>>> new committer, and work towards publishing pre-built artifacts in the
>>>>>> Apache repository. We need to continue in this positive direction.
>>>>> Given that we now have active committers from three distinct commercial 
>>>>> entities and patches from 19 different people in the last 3 months the 
>>>>> incubator is going to say we've reached a reasonable diversity level for 
>>>>> graduation.  So you might change this to say given these things, we 
>>>>> believe we've satisfied the diversity requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> SG. I just looked at:
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/hcatalog/whoweare.html
>>>>
>>>> And I see people listed from HW, Yahoo, Facebook & Twitter. Is that
>>>> correct? If so we're actually at 4 entities. I did a quick search for
>>>> jira assigned/reported by FB and did not see any, so not sure if we
>>>> should list them. Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> --travis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> * Make HCatalog more robust & featureful. While off to a good start,
>>>>>> certain key features are not yet available (such as support for all
>>>>>> data types) and Hive dependency issues prevent adding some new
>>>>>> features.
>>>>> This is irrelevant for graduation, as the incubator is concerned with our 
>>>>> community development, not the maturity of our product in a technical 
>>>>> sense.  (I'm pretty sure this was on previous reports and I probably even 
>>>>> signed those reports, so I see why you put it here.)
>>>>>
>>>>>> * Resolve a review process issue that affects our ability to develop
>>>>>> new features. Time between receiving patches and committing has
>>>>>> increased to problematic levels, often causing code rot and
>>>>>> contributors extra work to rebase patches against trunk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this time we feel confident in our ability to make progress toward
>>>>>> resolving these issues.
>>>>>> """
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --travis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Travis Crawford
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sounds good! I'll read a few past ones and send out a proposed one 
>>>>>>> shortly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --travis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Alan Gates <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Generally someone volunteers to put it together and circulates it.  
>>>>>>>> Then as long as everyone's ok with it we ask one of the mentors to 
>>>>>>>> sign off, then post it.  Feel free to take a crack at it and circulate 
>>>>>>>> your proposed report.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alan.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Travis Crawford wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey all -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Today's the deadline for this status update. I've never done one of
>>>>>>>>> these before so not entirely sure how that works.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking at http://incubator.apache.org/projects/hcatalog we see the
>>>>>>>>> last report was in March, and there's been some good stuff since then.
>>>>>>>>> There's been the release of 0.4, a new committer (me :) and some good
>>>>>>>>> user discussions on the mailing list. There's also some issues, such
>>>>>>>>> as the review latency issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does putting this together usually work? Should I look at some
>>>>>>>>> past reports and put together what I think makes sense, and send to
>>>>>>>>> the list to get some feedback? Hopefully we can do this today so its
>>>>>>>>> not late.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --travis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Marvin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear podling,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache 
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC.
>>>>>>>>>> It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your 
>>>>>>>>>> quarterly
>>>>>>>>>> board report.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 19 September 2012, 10:00:00 
>>>>>>>>>> PST. The report
>>>>>>>>>> for your podling will form a part of the Incubator PMC report. The 
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>>>>>>> requires your report to be submitted 2 weeks before the board 
>>>>>>>>>> meeting, to allow
>>>>>>>>>> sufficient time for review and submission (Wed, Sep 5th).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please submit your report with sufficient time to allow the 
>>>>>>>>>> incubator PMC, and
>>>>>>>>>> subsequently board members to review and digest. Again, the very 
>>>>>>>>>> latest you
>>>>>>>>>> should submit your report is 2 weeks prior to the board meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Apache Incubator PMC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Submitting your Report
>>>>>>>>>> ----------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your report should contain the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> * Your project name
>>>>>>>>>> * A brief description of your project, which assumes no knowledge of 
>>>>>>>>>> the project
>>>>>>>>>> or necessarily of its field
>>>>>>>>>> * A list of the three most important issues to address in the move 
>>>>>>>>>> towards
>>>>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>> * Any issues that the Incubator PMC or ASF Board might wish/need to 
>>>>>>>>>> be aware of
>>>>>>>>>> * How has the community developed since the last report
>>>>>>>>>> * How has the project developed since the last report.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This should be appended to the Incubator Wiki page at:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2012
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Note: This manually populated. You may need to wait a little before 
>>>>>>>>>> this page is
>>>>>>>>>>   created from a template.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mentors
>>>>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>>>> Mentors should review reports for their project(s) and sign them off 
>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator wiki page. Signing off reports shows that you are 
>>>>>>>>>> following the
>>>>>>>>>> project - projects that are not signed may raise alarms for the 
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator PMC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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