Re: HTML node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual name)'</span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=help-texinfo@gnu.org&q=from:%22Eli+Zaretskii%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Eli Zaretskii</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=help-texinfo@gnu.org&q=date:20240312" rel="nofollow">Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:45:18 -0700</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody"> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <pre>> From: Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0...@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:31:36 +0000 > Cc: "help-texinfo@gnu.org" <help-texinfo@gnu.org> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 01:14:19PM +0100, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Currently, makeinfo generates HTML <title> elements that contain a node > > name. This is good. However, for the top node, emitting the title name > > is redundant, and should likely be replaced with simply the manual name > > (since the node name 'Top' is uninteresting). > > > > Specifically, in the example of > > <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.aarsen.me/~arsen/gcc/ST/gcc.html/">https://www.aarsen.me/~arsen/gcc/ST/gcc.html/</a> the HTML title is 'Top > > (Using the GNU Compiler Collection)' rather than just simply 'Using the > > GNU Compiler Collection'. This behavior is desirable on all other nodes > > (e.g. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.aarsen.me/~arsen/gcc/ST/gcc.html/Solaris-2-Options.html">https://www.aarsen.me/~arsen/gcc/ST/gcc.html/Solaris-2-Options.html</a> > > being titled Solaris 2 Options (Using the GNU Compiler Collection > > (GCC))) is good. > > > > Is there a way to achieve this? > > > > TIA, have a lovely day. > > It seems like a good idea, does anybody have any opposition to making > this change?</pre><pre> Before making this change, please look at the manuals posted on the GNU Software pages, and see if any of them really needs this. Or what about reading the manuals on mobile devices? Changing such long-standing behavior just because it looks like "redundant" is not the best idea IME, but if no manuals and no browsers use this, maybe it's not as painful as I fear it could be. (Texinfo succeeded not to change the format of its HTML output for several releases, which is quite an accomplishment, but it sounds like we are again in for a bumpy ride, sigh...) </pre> </div> <div class="msgButtons margintopdouble"> <ul class="overflow"> <li class="msgButtonItems"><a class="button buttonleft " accesskey="p" href="msg03239.html">Previous message</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="c" href="index.html#03240">View by thread</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="i" href="maillist.html#03240">View by date</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textalignright"><a class="button buttonright " accesskey="n" href="msg03241.html">Next message</a></li> </ul> </div> <a name="tslice"></a> <div class="tSliceList margintopdouble"> <ul class="icons monospace"> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03238.html">HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03239.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email tSliceCur"><span class="subject">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting ...</span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03241.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitt...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03242.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not e...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03243.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03244.html">Re: HTML <title> node nam...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03245.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03247.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03255.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03265.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> </ul></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03246.html">Re: HTML <title> node nam...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03248.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </div> <div class="overflow msgActions margintopdouble"> <div class="msgReply" > <h2> Reply via email to </h2> <form method="POST" action="/mailto.php"> <input type="hidden" name="subject" value="Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual name)'"> <input type="hidden" name="msgid" value="86edcftete.fsf@gnu.org"> <input type="hidden" name="relpath" value="help-texinfo@gnu.org/msg03240.html"> <input type="submit" value=" Eli Zaretskii "> </form> </div> </div> </div> <div class="aside" role="complementary"> <div class="logo"> <a href="/"><img src="/logo.png" width=247 height=88 alt="The Mail Archive"></a> </div> <form class="overflow" action="/search" method="get"> <input type="hidden" name="l" value="help-texinfo@gnu.org"> <label class="hidden" for="q">Search the site</label> <input class="submittext" type="text" id="q" name="q" placeholder="Search help-texinfo"> <input class="submitbutton" name="submit" type="image" src="/submit.png" alt="Submit"> </form> <div class="nav margintop" id="nav" role="navigation"> <ul class="icons font16"> <li class="icons-home"><a href="/">The Mail Archive home</a></li> <li class="icons-list"><a href="/help-texinfo@gnu.org/">help-texinfo - 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