Re: HTML node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual name)'</span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=help-texinfo@gnu.org&q=from:%22Gavin+Smith%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Gavin Smith</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=help-texinfo@gnu.org&q=date:20240313" rel="nofollow">Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:31:20 -0700</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody"> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <pre>On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 10:04:11PM +0100, Arsen Arsenović wrote: > Hi Eli, > > [my apologies - I did not use a wide reply, so I am reposting this. > sorry for the inconvenience] > > Eli Zaretskii <e...@gnu.org> writes: > > > Before making this change, please look at the manuals posted on the > > GNU Software pages, and see if any of them really needs this. > > Note that this change request originated from inside the project. > Tobias Burnus asked about it in the context of GCC. I imagine any > Texinfo manual (broader than just GNU.org/s/) would benefit (or at least > not lose anything) also. I'm not sure I see a downside.</pre><pre> Agreed, I'm not sure why it would differ from one manual to another. > > Changing such long-standing behavior just because it looks like > > "redundant" is not the best idea IME, but if no manuals and no > > browsers use this, maybe it's not as painful as I fear it could be. > > Note that this behavior has been here since GNU Texinfo 6.4, and is > generally good. I am only proposing altering the 'Top' node (usually, > index.html). As you point out, the page title changed in that version of Texinfo, as before it was like "Using the GNU Compiler Collection - Top" with the manual name first. NEWS entry: . for HTML output, place section names before the manual in page titles, instead of after them, so it is easier to distinguish pages if titles are truncated Nobody complained about this breaking any stability. </pre> </div> <div class="msgButtons margintopdouble"> <ul class="overflow"> <li class="msgButtonItems"><a class="button buttonleft " accesskey="p" href="msg03241.html">Previous message</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="c" href="index.html#03242">View by thread</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textaligncenter"><a class="button" accesskey="i" href="maillist.html#03242">View by date</a></li> <li class="msgButtonItems textalignright"><a class="button buttonright " accesskey="n" href="msg03243.html">Next message</a></li> </ul> </div> <a name="tslice"></a> <div class="tSliceList margintopdouble"> <ul class="icons monospace"> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03238.html">HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03239.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03240.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03241.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitt...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email tSliceCur"><span class="subject">Re: HTML <title> node names: Not e...</span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03243.html">Re: HTML <title> node names: ...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03244.html">Re: HTML <title> node nam...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03245.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Arsen Arsenović</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03247.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03255.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03265.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> </ul></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03246.html">Re: HTML <title> node nam...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Patrice Dumas</span></li> <li><ul> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03248.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03249.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Gavin Smith</span></li> <li class="icons-email"><span class="subject"><a href="msg03251.html">Re: HTML <title> node...</a></span> <span class="sender italic">Eli Zaretskii</span></li> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </div> <div class="overflow msgActions margintopdouble"> <div class="msgReply" > <h2> Reply via email to </h2> <form method="POST" action="/mailto.php"> <input type="hidden" name="subject" value="Re: HTML <title> node names: Not emitting 'Top (Manual name)'"> <input type="hidden" name="msgid" value="ZfHizXGL2YftCJob@beigestar"> <input type="hidden" name="relpath" value="help-texinfo@gnu.org/msg03242.html"> <input type="submit" value=" Gavin Smith "> </form> </div> </div> </div> <div class="aside" role="complementary"> <div class="logo"> <a href="/"><img src="/logo.png" width=247 height=88 alt="The Mail Archive"></a> </div> <form class="overflow" action="/search" method="get"> <input type="hidden" name="l" value="help-texinfo@gnu.org"> <label class="hidden" for="q">Search the site</label> <input class="submittext" type="text" id="q" name="q" placeholder="Search help-texinfo"> <input class="submitbutton" name="submit" type="image" src="/submit.png" alt="Submit"> </form> <div class="nav margintop" id="nav" role="navigation"> <ul class="icons font16"> <li class="icons-home"><a href="/">The Mail Archive home</a></li> <li class="icons-list"><a href="/help-texinfo@gnu.org/">help-texinfo - 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