For #1: You do want two people when assembling things with glue - stretching the strips in the air above their landing zone. You can try to pipeline the operation - have some panels dry while you attach the strips to others, the glue has pretty decent working time of at least 20 min in fair weather, and you can always re-wet things if you missed your window.
And for #2 my partner in this process was a smoker :) so it's not that flammable actually :) My one year outdoor test (in California :)) for the contact cement is mostly positive - a few feet did peel off, but nothing compared to almost all of the bdf tape i did use on a few panels. I should mention that I was not using vinyl, but cordura strips with a fair number of zippers sewn on. Cordura is pretty much impossible to glue up, so I very impressed by the contact cement method. Cheers, Vladimir On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Jeremy Shaw <jer...@n-heptane.com> wrote: > By vinyl I assume you mean vinyl+contact cement? > > I am doing mine that way. I can give you a little feedback. > > 1. it is definitely more time consuming -- lots of waiting around for > cement to dry. It is also hard to do a whole strip at once -- so it > usually takes a couple cycles to get a whole strip on. > > 2. contact cement vapor is explosive, heavier than air, and harmful if > inhaled. So that means you need to have a good workplace. Not your living > room or basement. On the side of the can it warns you to turn off your > furnace and stuff. > > If you don't have the right type of workspace for the cementing (like a > backyard?) then I wouldn't try it. > > Whether it is going to be worth the extra time yet -- I don't know. > > - jeremy > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:01 PM, bprobst <probst.bria...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Do the hexayurt veterans recommend tape or vinyl? >> >> On Monday, July 15, 2013 12:42:47 PM UTC-7, Julie Danger wrote: >> >>> @ Jason S: I have a pdf up on >>> appropedia<http://www.appropedia.org/Camp_Danger_Hexayurt_Hinge_Technique>. >>> And it needs to be updated. >>> The camp danger hinges are all the same on the roof. The walls are also >>> the same tight/loose hinges. But there's two ways to do the walls. I can >>> now safely say that a simpler (ie: more pre-taping, less on-playa work) >>> will stand 2012 playa winds without trouble. I'll get on it, boss. >>> >>> http://www.appropedia.org/**images/d/d8/10%27_Hexayurt_** >>> instructional.pdf<http://www.appropedia.org/images/d/d8/10%27_Hexayurt_instructional.pdf> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 8:18 AM, <hexa...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Today's Topic Summary >>>> >>>> Group: >>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/hexayurt/topics<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/topics> >>>> >>>> - Almost Realtime Progress of Vinyl+Contact Cement (VCC) >>>> Project<#1405597c68c4064b_140558d89fce9f20_CALMAVnJY1n4Qqvz-_KVbpunOEvakLNKYmYCZxtb3+Spkip_ZWg@mail.gmail.com_13fddc2931b2eb06_group_thread_0>[1 >>>> Update] >>>> - H15 Hexayurt >>>> Foldable?<#1405597c68c4064b_140558d89fce9f20_CALMAVnJY1n4Qqvz-_KVbpunOEvakLNKYmYCZxtb3+Spkip_ZWg@mail.gmail.com_13fddc2931b2eb06_group_thread_1>[1 >>>> Update] >>>> >>>> Almost Realtime Progress of Vinyl+Contact Cement (VCC) >>>> Project<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/50f7a3db2a7e1f15> >>>> >>>> Jacob Rodriguez <fracta...@gmail.com> Jul 13 08:05PM -0700 >>>> >>>> I highly recommend that you do some experimentation before you >>>> begin >>>> production. I'm having an aweful lot of trouble now that I'm >>>> working on the >>>> loose hinges. Instead of pre-taping your edges (to avoid inadequate >>>> adhesion), and instead of gluing directly onto bare foam, I'd >>>> suggest that >>>> you prepare your foam edges with a coating of contact cement. >>>> Basically, >>>> put a layer of contact cement all over your edges, let it dry >>>> completely >>>> (overnight), then do another layer and apply the vinyl. This seems >>>> to work >>>> out a lot better and does not cause as much bubbling and >>>> non-adhesion as >>>> might otherwise occur. >>>> >>>> Remember to go slowly, and have patience. If you used BFT, you'd >>>> eventually >>>> have to spend time to replace it. Since you will not be replacing >>>> BFT down >>>> the line, you will be spending that time now, applying a more >>>> permanent >>>> solution. You are doing the exact opposite of the saying "never >>>> enough time >>>> to do it right the first time, but always time to do it twice". >>>> This will >>>> probably take twice the time upfront. >>>> >>>> Good Luck! Can't wait to see how your project turns out! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> H15 Hexayurt >>>> Foldable?<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt/t/db29ed4c96eba9bc> >>>> >>>> Jason S <dare...@gmail.com> Jul 13 01:06PM -0700 >>>> >>>> Does anyone have experience on the foldability of the H15 hexayurt< >>>> >>>> http://www.**appropedia.org/10%27_Hexayurt<http://www.appropedia.org/10%27_Hexayurt> >>>> >**design? Ideally we'd like to have everything fold into a 8' x 4' >>>> footprint. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> -Jason >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "hexayurt" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to hexayurt+u...@**googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to hexa...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/**group/hexayurt<http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>> . >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "hexayurt" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "hexayurt" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to hexayurt+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to hexayurt@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. 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